MPA & Other Numbers!

Spurgeon, James James.Spurgeon at jacobs.com
Tue Mar 12 05:03:15 EST 2002


Don and others,

Thanks for an interesting and informative discussion.  A few additional
views that may be of interest:

As Jack Sobel mentions, there will of course be many other important
benefits of MPAs to consider.  A whole range of "numbers" can be generated
in support of MPAs, both quantitative and monetary.  However, many of the
monetary benefits may not be so easy to appropriate (capture) at present
(e.g. indirect use and non-use values) and hence are of less concern to
politicians.  This will change over time!  The net social impacts of MPA
options also need addressing, in particular relating to how livelihoods
are affected.

As Stephen Jameson suggests, a business plan approach would help
enormously. There are numerous opportunities for identifying sources of
finance for MPAs, and these resources need to be focused efficiently and
effectively on enhancing and capturing benefits and tackling the root
cause of coral degradation problems.  Unfortunately, as Stephen
highlights, many root causes occur outside the MPA - through the "3 screen
doors".  Radical national and international initiatives are needed to
tackle these.

Finally, as Don comments, "business and science" may not mix well.
However, this must change if coral reefs are to stand any chance in the
future. There are several important initiatives and changes in the
pipeline involving the private sector and natural resource/biodiversity
conservation that could have considerable beneficial consequences for
coral reefs.  The potential for benefit is enormous, although possible
adverse side-effects must be carefully considered and minimised.

The above points are all discussed further in a paper "Economic Valuation
of Coral Reefs: The Next Ten Years", one of many papers to be included in
the proceedings of an ICLARM 2001 workshop on "Economic Valuation and
Policy Priorities for Sustainable Management of Coral Reefs", to be
published by ICLARM in the next few months.

Best wishes
James

James Spurgeon
Principal Environmental Economist
JacobsGIBB Ltd
Tel: +44 (0)118 963 5000
Fax: +44 (0)118 926 3888
Email: james.spurgeon at jacobs.com





-----Original Message-----
From: pacaqts [mailto:pacaqts at tm.net.my]
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 11:57 AM
To: coral-list at aoml.noaa.gov
Subject: Many Thanks to All / MPA & Numbers

Dear Coral-Lers,

Many thanks to the quick replies and references. Fyi. We are finalizing
a
MPA here in Sabah - NE of Sandakan. But the Sabah State Gov wants the
'numbers.'  Yes, typically they are the 'politicians' - based from a
'rice-bowl' syndrome that is difficult to convince on just
'institutional /
academic 'heresay [their words].'' And typically business & science
often
does not mix well.

Cheers to all,
Don Baker
LBT-MPA
Sandakan, Sabah
Malaysia



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and others</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=534494313-11032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks
for an interesting and informative&nbsp;discussion.&nbsp; A few
additional&nbsp;views that may be of interest:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=534494313-11032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=534494313-11032002>As </SPAN><SPAN class=534494313-11032002>Jack
Sobel
mentions,&nbsp;there will of course be&nbsp;many other important
benefits of
MPAs to consider.&nbsp; A whole range of "numbers" can be generated in
support
of MPAs, both quantitative and monetary.&nbsp; However,&nbsp;many of the
monetary&nbsp;benefits&nbsp;may not be so easy to appropriate (capture)
at
present (e.g. indirect use and non-use values) and hence are of less
concern to
politicians.&nbsp;&nbsp;This will change over time!&nbsp; The net social
impacts
of MPA options also need addressing, in particular relating to how
livelihoods
are affected.&nbsp;</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
class=534494313-11032002></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT
size=2><FONT color=#0000ff><SPAN
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<DIV><SPAN class=534494313-11032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>As&nbsp;Stephen Jameson suggests,&nbsp;a business plan
approach&nbsp;would&nbsp;help enormously.&nbsp; There
are&nbsp;numerous&nbsp;opportunities for&nbsp;identifying sources of
finance for
MPAs, and these resources need to be&nbsp;focused efficiently and
effectively on
enhancing and capturing benefits and&nbsp;tackling the&nbsp;root cause
of coral
degradation problems.&nbsp; Unfortunately, as Stephen highlights,
many&nbsp;root
causes&nbsp;occur outside the MPA - through the "3 screen doors".&nbsp;
Radical
national and international
initiatives&nbsp;are&nbsp;needed&nbsp;to&nbsp;tackle
these. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=534494313-11032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=534494313-11032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Finally, as Don comments, "business and science" may not
mix&nbsp;well.&nbsp; However, this&nbsp;must change if coral reefs are
to
stand&nbsp;any chance in the future.&nbsp; There are&nbsp;several
important
initiatives and changes&nbsp;in the pipeline&nbsp;involving the private
sector
and natural resource/biodiversity conservation that&nbsp;could
have&nbsp;considerable beneficial consequences for coral
reefs.&nbsp;&nbsp;The
potential for benefit is enormous, although possible adverse
side-effects must
be&nbsp;carefully considered and minimised. &nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=534494313-11032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=534494313-11032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>The
above points are all&nbsp;discussed further in
a&nbsp;paper&nbsp;"Economic
Valuation of Coral Reefs: The Next Ten Years", one of&nbsp;many
papers&nbsp;to
be included in the&nbsp;proceedings of an ICLARM 2001 workshop on
"Economic
Valuation&nbsp;and Policy Priorities for Sustainable Management of Coral
Reefs",
to be published by ICLARM in the next few months.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=534494313-11032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=534494313-11032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Best
wishes</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=534494313-11032002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>James</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=534494313-11032002><FONT face=Arial size=2><I><FONT
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<BR><I><FONT
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face=Arial color=#ff0000 size=2>Tel: +44 (0)118 963 5000</FONT></I>
<BR><I><FONT
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> pacaqts
  [mailto:pacaqts at tm.net.my]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 08, 2002
11:57
  AM<BR><B>To:</B> coral-list at aoml.noaa.gov<BR><B>Subject:</B> Many
Thanks to
  All / MPA &amp; Numbers<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dear Coral-Lers,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Many thanks to the quick replies and
references.
  Fyi. We are finalizing a MPA here in Sabah - NE of Sandakan. But the
Sabah
  State Gov wants the 'numbers.'&nbsp; Yes, typically they are the
'politicians'
  - based from a 'rice-bowl' syndrome that is difficult to convince on
just
  'institutional / academic 'heresay [their words].'' And typically
business
  &amp; science often does not mix well.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers to all,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don Baker</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>LBT-MPA</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sandakan, Sabah</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Malaysia</FONT></DIV>
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