[Coral-List] Coral List Submission

Fri Sep 30 14:44:44 EDT 2005

Hi Vaese,

Just a quick note, The Reef Ball Foundation's Red Mangrove division is
developing a proposal for using Red Mangrove to reduce the impact of a public
aquarium's outflow for purposes of reducing the load of ammonia, nitrites and
nitrates, etc.  Theoretically, surface area is the key and that is why Red
Mangrove roots are a good choice as they provide alot of biological surface
area contacting the waters.  I will let you know our monitoring results 
if this
project is undertaken.  It is planned to be extensively monitored.

-Todd Barber
Reef Ball Foundation

Quoting Vanese Flood <vanesef at yahoo.com>:

> Hi Erik,
> I'm surprised at the comment "with bleaching, etc
> there are more pressing issues in the coral world".
> At this point, all corals that are in healthy
> condition should be kept that way precisely because of
> coral bleaching on other reefs.
> Additionally, mangroves are "wetlands".  They are
> important buffers to both land from hurricane damage
> and to reefs from land run-off.  The affects of last
> year's Tsunami were greatly worsened in areas where
> mangroves had been cut back for commercial fish
> farming.  The golf course construction must be costing
> millions.  Surely they should protect their investment
> by letting nature provide an important buffer from
> storm erosion.  Mangroves will provide this.  As for a
> "wet land" buffer for runoff from
> the fertilizer -- does anyone on the list know if
> mangroves can serve in this way??
> In addition to this, mangroves are important fish
> hatcheries/nurseries.  Get the fishermen and dive
> operators involved in this project.  I'll stick my
> neck out here and say that THERE is a direct effect on
> fish populations when mangroves have been depleted.
> The more involvement from various other businesses in
> the area, the stronger your argument to get the
> developers to work with you.
> Good luck, and keep us posted on the development.
> Vanese Flood
>
> --- Erik Gauger <erik at notesfromtheroad.com> wrote:
>
>> At the beginning of this week, Kalai posted a public
>> reply to my
>> email about Guana Cay.  He asked, "how close is the
>> reef to the
>> golf course?"
>>
>> The answer is that the reef is 45 feet from the
>> shore.  There is a
>> photo here.  The land is a proposed fairway.
>>
>>
> http://www.notesfromtheroad.com/WestIndies/bakers_bay_intro4.htm
>>
>> I have received over 50 gracious replies to my
>> original query.  It
>> may take me a few weeks to respond to everybody.
>> However, the
>> assistance I have received has been enormous.  I
>> understand that
>> with bleaching, etc there are more pressing issues
>> in the coral
>> world.
>>
>> I want to make it clear that the proposed golf
>> course is very
>> 'green' and that this issue is one of 'best
>> practices' versus 'what
>> will actually happen to the reef.'  The golf course
>> uses seagrass
>> paspalam, and the land will be terraformed so that
>> the runoff from
>> the fertilizer will go into a manmade wetlands (the
>> mangroves are
>> being cleared for a 250 slip marina).
>>
>> Several of you have written me that golf courses can
>> be built in a
>> very green way.  I am familiar with such golf course
>> projects in
>> places like Hawaii, where the golf course and reef
>> are separated by
>> hundreds of yards and even hills.  Guana Cay is very
>> different
>> because it is a tiny island only an 1/8th of a mile
>> wide and seven
>> miles long.  The 250 boat marina will be dredged
>> from mangroves or
>> wetlands, and will be as close to the reef as the
>> Disney dredging
>> project, which was estimated to have killed off 1/3
>> of the corals
>> on the Northeastern edge of the island.
>>
>> A large pdf of the golf course plan:
>>
>>
> http://www.discoverylandco.com/images/bakersbay/illustrative_plan.p
>> df
>>
>> and my map of the island:
>>
>>
> http://www.notesfromtheroad.com/WestIndies/guana_map.html
>>
>> Thanks for all your assistance in helping someone
>> from the outside.
>>
>> Erik
>> notesfromtheroad.com
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 08:28:36 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: Kristen Hoss <kristenhoss at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Present Bleaching Event -
>> PR & USVI etc.
>> To: "scott.stripling" <scott.stripling at noaa.gov>,
>> Alan E Strong
>> 	<Alan.E.Strong at noaa.gov>
>> Cc: Roger B Griffis <Roger.B.Griffis at noaa.gov>,
>> 	coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov,
>> Lisamarie.Carrubba at noaa.gov
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>> Hello,
>>
>> I was wondering if anyone has ever studied the
>> correlation of coral
>> bleaching episodes as possible indicators of what
>> hurricane
>> activity may be like during the year?  I was
>> wondering if there was
>> a connection that could be used as a prediction
>> tool, or if the
>> correlation would just be related to the already
>> known water
>> temperatures and weather patterns, etc....
>>
>> -Kristen Hoss
>> Marine Researcher
>> and Wildlife Biologist-USDA/APHIS/WS
>>
>> "scott.stripling" <scott.stripling at noaa.gov> wrote:
>> With the NE Caribbean currently located underneath
>> an elongated
>> area of
>> low pressure,
>> light and variable winds will continue to dominate
>> the region for
>> the
>> next 1 to 2 weeks.
>> Computer models are forecasting only brief (6-12
>> hour periods) of
>> anything
>> approaching normal trade wind flow during this time.
>> Thus the
>> stagnant
>> mixing conditions will
>> persist regionally through the first week of
>> October, at the least.
>>
>> Scott Stripling
>> NOAA/NWS San Juan
>>
>> Alan E Strong wrote:
>>
>> > *NOTICE - Bleaching continues to evolve throughout
>> Eastern
>> Caribbean*
>> >
>> > Beginning in the central Keys during August
>> (Sombrero Key
>> especially)
>> > the warm water episode and accompanying bleaching
>> for this year
>> is
>> > progressing south and eastward through Cuba,
>> Puerto Rico and the
>> > Virgin Islands. This can visually be seen in our
>> recent 12-week
>> > composite of HotSpot accumulations - Degree
>> Heating Weeks (DHWs):
>> >
>> >
>>
> http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data2/dhwa.9.19.2005.gif
>> >
>> > and HotSpots:
>> >
>> >
>>
> http://www.osdpd.noaa.gov/PSB/EPS/SST/data/hotspotwnc.gif
>> >
>> > Extremely high DHWs above "8" in much of the
>> Virgin Islands are
>> quite
>> > worrisome as these levels in past bleaching events
>> typically
>> bring
>> > some mortality to corals. This evolving episode
>> continues to be
>> at
>>
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