[Coral-List] Coral-List Digest, Vol 33, Issue 40
James Leon Falter
falter at hawaii.edu
Mon Mar 20 15:59:23 EST 2006
Jim,
I second the notion of moving the coral list into a forum/discussion board format. I think it could be done at whatever pace you would feel comfotable with. I work with another federally funded project promoting the dissemination of information on coastal sensor technology called the Alliance for Coastal Technology. You can view an example of the forum pages at:
http://www.act-us.info/forum/
Something like that would provide a bit more organization to the stream of discussions. I think you're doing a great job already. This is merely a suggestion.
-jim
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> 1. Mangroves as stabilising plants (Duncan MacRae)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:48:24 -0000
> From: "Duncan MacRae" <solutions at cozm.co.uk>
> Subject: [Coral-List] Mangroves as stabilising plants
> To: "Todd Barber" <reefball at reefball.com>, "Nicolas J. Pilcher"
> <pilcher at tm.net.my>, <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
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> I'm not sure if either of you guys have been to Selingan recently,
> but there
> seems to be some major sediment movements going on (that all look
> relatively
> recent). The spit to the west of the island seems to be growing,
> whilst the
> other beaches are being eroded significantly - seemingly due to the
> off
> shore breakwater that already exists!. I realise this is causing
> issues for
> the buildings on the island, but the turtles are adapting fine.
> Sooo
> medalling here already seems to have caused problems.
>
> To put it bluntly I do not agree with the idea to establish a
> mangrove stand
> on the island for two main reasons:
>
> 1. there are no mangroves on the island currently because the
> situation is
> NOT a suitable habitat - for numerous reasons
> 2. the islands sediments are dynamic and any attempt to stabilise
> them will
> no doubt fail in the long term or lead to further problems in the
> prevailing
> direction of littoral drift - with the possibility of mangroves and
> their
> associated nutrients/sediments ending up on the reefs
>
> It would be a far better idea in the long run to remove the
> threatened
> buildings (dilapidated dive store, staff quarters etc) and make
> them
> temporary structures made out of local materials such as those on
> stilts
> constructed for the Govt. fishing project near by. These can then
> be
> moved/reconstructed as required.
>
> I hope more folk out there can add to this discussion.
>
> Best,
>
> Duncan
>
> Duncan R. MacRae
>
> Director
> Coastal Zone Management (UK)
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Todd Barber" <reefball at reefball.com>
> To: "Nicolas J. Pilcher" <pilcher at tm.net.my>;
> <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Sabah and reefballs
>
>
> > Hi Nicolas,
> >
> > Why would you think I am using Reef Balls to save the day? We're
> looking
> > at
> > planting mangroves to help stabilize the beaches because Reef
> Balls
> > offshore
> > (8 years ago) have stopped the netting and increased the turtle
> nestings> substaintially so they need as much space as possible.
> Come on folks, we
> > are an NGO, not a marketing company. Sure, we use Reef Balls in
> a lot of
> > our projects but only as one management tool of many.
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Todd Barber
> > Chairman Reef Ball Foundation, Inc.
> > 3305 Edwards Court
> > Greenville, NC 27858
> > reefball at reefball.com
> >
> > http://www.artificialreefs.org
> > http://www.reefball.org
> > http://www.reefball.com
> >
> > Direct: 252-353-9094
> > mobile: 941-720-7549
> > Fax 425-963-4119
> >
> > Personal Space: http://www.myspace/reefball
> > Group Space http://groups.myspace.com/reefballfoundation
> > Skype & MSN For Voice or Video Conferences:
> > Available upon request
> >
> > Atlanta/Athens Office
> > 890 Hill Street
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> > 770-752-0202
> > (Our headquarters...not where I work see above)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nicolas J. Pilcher" <pilcher at tm.net.my>
> > To: "Todd Barber" <reefball at reefball.com>;
> > <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
> > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:57 PM
> > Subject: Sabah and reefballs
> >
> >
> >> Interesting to hear that reefballs are going to save Sabah's
> reefs from
> >> erosion. Ever seen what continued man--made structures end up
> looking
> >> like
> >> many years after being deployed in areas where shifting sands
> due to
> >> predominant current patters persists? The Maldives might be a
> good
> >> example
> >> of the continued need to adjust and shift these. The turtle
> islands have
> >> been subject to a two-phase sand shift with the monsoon season
> for many
> >> more years than reef-balls, and turtles, which require a stable
> nesting>> habitat in order to successfully propagate as a group of
> species. Sand
> >> moves one way in the monsoon season, the other in the off
> season. And
> >> while sand is ultimately shifting slowly in one direction, the
> islands
> >> are
> >> obviously sufficiently stable for turtles, which nest on their
> natal>> beaches but require a 30 year developmental period. That
> is, the islands
> >> are stable enough for 30 years, yet reefballs are going to save
> the day?
> >>
> >>
> >>>I am off to the Turtle Islands in Sabah tomorrow to save the turtle
> >>>nesting
> >>>grounds from erosion for those totally protected (from humans)
> islands,
> >>>so
> >>>I
> >>>won't be able to respond for the next week. So if you have a
> comment try
> >>>emailing it to me directly with a catchy subject that I can pick
> out on a
> >>>slow internet connection.
> >>
> >> I am writing from Sabah with a fast broadband connection. You'll
> end up
> >> in
> >> hotels all of which have wireless broadband access for guests -
> yes,
> >> right
> >> here in Borneo, of all places! I'd appreciate if you would not
> suggest>> that this is a backward destination, you might find in
> many ways Sabah
> >> has
> >> a lot more to offer.
> >>
> >> Dr. Nicolas J. Pilcher
> >> Co-Chair IUCN SSC Marine Turtle Specialist Group
> >>
> >> Executive Director
> >> Marine Research Foundation
> >> 136 Lorong Pokok Seraya 2
> >> Taman Khidmat
> >> 88450 Kota Kinabalu
> >> Sabah
> >> Malaysia
> >>
> >> Tel ++ 60 88 386136
> >> Fax ++ 60 88 387136
> >> Email: pilcher at tm.net.my
> >>
> >>
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:05:04 -0500
> From: Jill.Meyer at noaa.gov
> Subject: [Coral-List] Program Specialist Position IM Systems Group
> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Reef Regeneration (Amy Ridgeway)
> 2. 3rd announcement (Bonaire National Marine Park)
> 3. Cold-water coral website launched (Murray Roberts)
> 4. Re: Reef Regeneration (Tom Williams)
> 5. Re: Coral List Submission (Tom Williams)
> 6. Coral Rehabilitation (reefball at reefball.com)
> 7. short term coral growth (Tennille Irvine)
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:04:45 -0500 (EST)
> From: "Lore Ayoub" <layoub at mail.marine.usf.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] The State of the List
> To: "Jonathan Shrives" <jonshrives at yahoo.com>
> Cc: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
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> Jon, thank you for your well-put defense of the current discussion -
> this
> is a forum, after all. And our research is ineffectual without
> influenceand awareness in wider circles ie the public.
>
> Lore
>
> > Dear Jim,
> >
> > In response to the last few threads about Guana Cay
> > (Oh no I hear you cry - not MORE Guana Cay - but just
> > bare with me a minute!), I feel that it's an important
> > part of the list to have such debates. So what if its
> > been the focus of a week's worth of e-mails? I'm
> > currently researching corals as part of my PhD, and
> > I've seen some big names make valuable contributions
> > on this list. There have been references bounded
> > around that I have dug out, and found to be really
> > useful in furthering my research. As a junior
> > researcher, starting my career, I have found the list
> > to be an invaluable tool. I have spent the last year
> > trawling through publisher's websites, Web of
> > Knowledge, Google Scholar, and other such online
> > journal search engines, and yet the list has always
> > provided me with some of the best references to hunt
> > out.
> >
> > So I guess what I'm trying to say is, big deal! Viva
> > the List! I believe it's in the nature of us all to
> > get passionate about what we believe in - and thus get
> > focused on certain issues - otherwise we wouldn't be
> > coral scientists ( it isn't like we do it for the
> > money! ). I believe that the list will go on long
> > after the Guana Cay debate, and still contribute
> > massively to the causes of research and conservation.
> > I don't think there are many researchers who don't
> > know that every reef out there is under threat from
> > localised and global anthropogenic pollution. However
> > I think it is important to see how Guana Cay goes. I
> > think it's important to see how scientists and
> > conservationists fare up against powerful,
> > money-centric developers and governments. I think it's
> > a mini-case study on the backdoor of Florida, that
> > will one day, I'm afraid, be a problem faced by any
> > researcher in any part of the world. Maybe we should
> > all re-train and become environmental lawyers?!
> >
> > In summary, I don't think contributors to the list
> > should feel bullied or guilt-tripped into
> > concentrating on other issues (certainly not by the
> > CEO's of ecotourism companies!). The List is what it
> > is, and if someone isn't happy with it - then
> > unsubscribe! - that?s their problem not ours.
> >
> > Thanks once again for all your efforts Jim and
> > Listers. Life would be a lot more difficult without
> > the list!
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Jon Shrives
> >
> >
> > Jonathan Shrives
> > Tropical Ecology Research Group
> > University of Oxford
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:18:55 +0800 (CST)
> From: Jeffrey Low <cat64fish at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Coral-List] Unclog email account by moving coal-list to a
> forum/bulletin board?
> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I wonder if the list should be moved to a more structured forum /
> bulletin board?
>
> That way, people can pick and choose whihc topics are of interest
> to them, administrators can be assigned regardless of location etc.
>
> Any thoughts on this?
>
> Cheers, Jeff
>
> capman at augsburg.edu wrote:
> I am a biologist, but I can only marginally call myself a coral
> researcher (even though I have been working some with corals in
> recent years). Consequently, for the several years that I have been
> signed up on the Coral List I have mostly just read what others
> have
> had to say, and only occasionally have had things to contribute.
>
> In the past few years I have noticed a fairly extreme intolerance
> on
> the Coral List for discussions that might be seen as straying too
> far
> from the mission of the list, and a strong tendency for people to
> quickly move their conversations to private e-mails rather than
> continuing them on the public forum. To a certain extent this is
> good, though I often wish that more of the conversations that
> follow
> from the postings to the list (and answers to questions posted on
> the
> list) were done in the public forum so that more of us could
> benefit
> from the wealth of expertise represented by the members of the list.
>
> As far as messages clogging e-mail inboxes is concerned though,
> there
> is a fairly easy solution: Most e-mail programs (including ones
> like
> Eudora that you can download for free) allow you to filter
> messages.
> All of my Coral List e-mails get send automatically to a separate
> mailbox where they are easy to find, but not clogging my main
> Inbox.
> The other thing I do, once these e-mails are neatly tucked away is
> this: I simply don't read them all. I just read the ones that look
> like they are likely to be of interest to me (and once a thread has
> become boring or not relevant to me anymore, it is very easy to
> simply not read the further responses). This is pretty easy to do.
>
> If a person is in a remote location with very poor Internet access
> (where each additional bit of data that is received really is a
> burden), then I suppose my solution does not address the
> fundamental
> problem, and I can see where this would be a big reason for keeping
> postings to the list to a minimum. The drain on the moderator's
> time
> that would result from large numbers of posts would be another reason.
>
> However, my sense it that the bigger concern tends to be from
> people
> who simply don't want the distraction and bother of getting too
> many
> e-mails all the time. As I noted above, it seems that there are
> easy
> ways to not be bothered by Coral List e-mails without limiting
> conversations that many (though not all) on the list might find
> valuable.
>
> Bill
>
>
> >Dear James,
> >
> >Not surprisingly, my recent email has elicited a variety of
> responses.>Happily, most have been constructive, well considered,
> highly informative
> >and above all, polite. Only a couple have been otherwise and to them:
> >"Likewise, mate"!
> >
> >As I said in my previous email regarding my views and comments of
> the List
> >upon recently re-joining it: "At best, my view is just skewed
> because of my
> >recent rejoining." Clearly there is much more on the Bahamas issue
> that I
> >have not been party too. However, I am well aware of some issues
> in the
> >Bahamas, having not too distantly become extremely P'd-off and since
> >withdrawn CCC's offer of support for a GEF initiative there.
> >
> >James, I wanted to reply to your email openly via coral-list (as
> opposed to
> >the others I have done so directly and in private) because your
> reply was in
> >the first-person, informative & constructive, and not instantly
> knee-jerk
> >hostile or personally abusive.
> >
> >I remain convinced that the dialogue I have seen (limited as it
> may be, and
> >co-limited as to the period of my rejoining the List has been)
> regarding>Guana has at best run it's course as far as the List is
> concerned. In my
> >opinion, it now needs to be shifted into another dedicated focal
> arena; an
> >arena that all wishing to join should be openly invited to do so -
> period!.>Some of what I have read posted to coral-list (since I re-
> joined) from
> >certain parties regarding Bahamas could, in other hands, become
> extremely>profitable to those whose livelihoods are dependent
> within the legal
> >profession - enough said!
> >
> >Be advised also that the Bahamas issue is US-centric: of interest
> to US
> >scientist adjacent to the US coastal cities. It (the issue) should
> be born
> >in mind, but related and extended to those countries such as the
> >Philippines, where in my own limited experience (21 years), far
> more can be
> >accomplished and achieved by US scientists willing to travel
> beyond the
> >confines of the USA.
> >
> >Let me put this another way: a good deal of time and effort
> appears to be
> >spent on trying to protect a few hectares (?) of coral reefs
> surrounding>Guana, and at face value perhaps at odds with the
> Government and influential
> >and well-financed development stakeholders. What BEST has to say
> about all
> >this or what the local community have to say, I have not been
> party to;
> >their voice/comments via the List I have not seen, perhaps given
> my recent
> >re-entry. There are several thousand ++ hectares of equally (if
> not more)
> >important reefs out there in places like the Philippines just
> begging a
> >one-tenth diversion of US reef-focus to them. With just a fraction
> of the
> >Guana attention and focus, US reef scientists would successfully
> accomplish>way more than they could ever hope to in tiny places
> like the Bahamas.
> >
> >There really is some "interesting data" coming from the
> Philippines. My
> >point is: is there anyone from the USA that really wants to listen
> to it?
> >For the very small minority that do/can, please contact the likes
> of CCC.
> >
> >All the best,
> >
> >Pete
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >_____________________________________________
> >Peter Raines MBE FRGS FIBiol CGeog CBiol MInstD
> >Founder & Chairman
> >
> >Coral Cay Conservation Ltd
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> >Tel: +44 (0)777 176 7423 (cellphone)
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> > -----Original Message-----
> >From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> >[mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of James M.
> >Cervino
> >Sent: 18 March 2006 12:50
> >To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> >Subject: [Coral-List] Corals don't Clog, Discovery Inc. will clog
> them?>
> >Dear Pete,
> >
> >
> >I don't think bringing attention to a development project that will
> >kill 200 year old corals in the Bahamas can be constituted as
> >"clogging up this list". Do you realize that the Bahamas Govt is
> >about to approve such an action? We were using Guana as a study site
> >to monitor corals that are infected with very low indices of coraline
> >diseases. We coral scientists need to have old colonies to monitor
> >over time during this current time, and if this development project
> >takes place with the help of these so called "experts" the developer
> >is paying we will loose this study site. I was actually happy to see
> >that this reef, if the levels of nutrients were to be controlled, can
> >be a great study site for many scientists and divers to use as an
> >educational tool so close to US coastal cities.
> >
> >Erik Gauger has told me that this thread may actually help save the
> >corals of Guana. We appreciate Jim Hendee's efforts for having this
> >open platform and are looking forward to hearing about your
> >"interesting data" from the Philippines!
> >
> >James
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Dear all,
> >
> >I've just rejoined the List and am starting to regret having done
> so: my
> >emails having been immediately swamped today by "The Great Guana
> Cay Debate"
> >etc etc,....
> >
> >Much of what I have read and been party to on this issue (in just
> the past
> >12 hrs since I rejoined) seems somewhat polarised and extremely
> focussed (I
> >choose my words very carefully here!). At best, my view is just
> skewed>because of my recent rejoining. At worst, some would say
> that coral-list has
> >been hijacked. I shall remain on the List for a few days more in
> the hope
> >that my initial concerns are unfounded.
> >
> >Important as the Guana issue is (and it is), perhaps it's now time
> for those
> >wishing to pursue it so passionately (and you have all made us all
> now know
> >very load and clear who you are) to do so amongst yourselves, move
> off to
> >another dedicated communication channel amongst yourselves, and
> not clog-up
> >the open channel that coral-list was established for.
> >
> >So, having said all that: anyone out there want info on the status
> of coral
> >reefs in Southern Leyte (Philippines)? Some really interesting
> data coming
> >out of there, if you are interested.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Pete
> >--
> >**************************************************
> >Dr. James M. Cervino, MS, Ph.D.
> >Marine Pathology
> >Department of Biological & Health Sciences
> >Pace University New York NYC
> >Phone: (917) 620-5287
> >Web site: http://www.globalcoral.org
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