[Coral-List] science outreach project

Tim Wijgerde t.wijgerde at coralscience.org
Tue Dec 23 14:25:18 EST 2008



Dear all,

thank you for the nice responses about the Coral
Science project so far, and pardon my poor English in my last letter. By
participating in this list, we hope to expand our current scientific
network and thereby increase the number of skilled authors as members of
our team. May I remind you that we deal with all relevant topics of today,
from the molecular signals that underlie coral
regeneration/development/axis formation/etc to the causes/effects of
climate change. 

Wishing you all a merry celebration of Sol
Invictus (or should I say merry Christmas?) and a fantastic new year,

Tim Wijgerde




Op Di, 23 december, 2008
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> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:28:26
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> From: Bill Raymond
<billraymond10 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Good
News from Australia
> To: "James Cervino PhD."
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> I would add to your list of reasons pumping deep cool water up
to save
> coral reefs wouldn't work: coral bleaching may not be
due to heat but
> rather too muck light, or some component
thereof. In a survey of
> Tortola?(BVI) reefs in 2005 I found
deeper, cooler coral bleached nearly
> as much as shllow ones, yet
Siderastrea on rocks in Hans Creek, which was
> warmer than the
reefs but shaded by mangroves, had full color. Plus the
>
bleaching was a rather sudden event following a period of solar forcing
in
> October. At the same time, corals in more turbid water, SE
Florida (Ft.
> Lauderdale) were hardly affected, and the
spottiness of the bleachjing
> event regionally may be due to
clouds.?
> 
> --- On Sun, 12/21/08, James Cervino PhD.
<jcervino at whoi.edu> wrote:
> 
> From: James Cervino
PhD. <jcervino at whoi.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Good
News from Australia
> To: "Dokken, Dr. Quenton"
<qdokken at gulfmex.org>
> Cc: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov,
"'Gene Shinn'" <eshinn at marine.usf.edu>
> Date:
Sunday, December 21, 2008, 3:12 PM
> 
> Dr Quenton- Brings
up serious flaws in the way in which how information is
>
interpreted by the masses. Here is another example of how political
> leaders,
> journalists and the masses think that corals can
be saved by a company
> thereby
> implementing a
"cooling system" New Scientist" 2008, to protect
>
and save reefs!
> 
> The Cooling System
> An idea
by Atmocean Inc.  has developed a simple pumping system for
>
bringing
> cool, deep water up to the surface. They claim that we
could use pumps
> could
> cool reefs by bringing up deep
water, using only wave power.
> 
> This is an example of
the insanity, where they claim that it would be
> feasible
> to implement a pump that brings Cool Deep Nutrient Rich Waters to
the
> surface
> thereby cooling reef off which will
prevent them from overheating.
> 
> What about the pH
shifts?  This crazy idea would speed up the acidic
> conditions
> and surely kill the corals and their symbioants. Corals do not have
the
> cellular mechanics or " on off switches" to deal
with the above water
> chemistry.
> 
> This theory
would bring up:
> 
> Low pH (more acidic)
> Low
O2
> High Hydrogen Sulfide
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *************************************
> Dr.
James M. Cervino
> Pace University &
> Visiting
Scientist
> Woods Hole Oceanographic Inst.
> Department of
Marine Chemistry
> Woods Hole MA.
> NYC Address: 9-22
119st
> College Point NY NY 11356
> Cell: 917-620*5287
> ************************************
> 
> 
> Quoting "Dokken, Dr. Quenton"
<qdokken at gulfmex.org>:
> 
> * This line of
discussion highlights one of the great failures and
>
challenges
> * of science today - the ability to accurately get
science into the
> public's
> * awareness and
understanding.  Journalists, lawyers, courts, vested
> *
interests, etc have distorted fact to support a position or advance a
> * financial interest.  Scientists as a rule are not geared to
working
> outside
> * of peer reviewed literature.  The
reality is that peered reviewed
> science is
> * not
driving society - spin masters are.  Just tune your TV to any
>
political
> * talking head program to see reality driven by
opinion/ideology and not
> fact.
> * We in science should
be finding ways to work together to support
> scientific
>
* reality based on fact rather than biased interpretation. I believe
that
> if
> * scientists can get their act together, there
are many that are ready to
> * follow.
> *
> *
Quenton Dokken, Ph.D.
> * Executive Director
> * Gulf of
Mexico Foundation, Inc.
> * PMB 51  5403 Everhart Rd.
> *
Corpus Christi, TX 78411
> *
> * 361-882-3939
> *
361-442-6064 cell
> *
> * qdokken at gulfmex.org
> *
www.gulfmex.org
> *
> *
> *
> *
-----Original Message-----
> * From:
coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> *
[mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Billy
> Causey
> * Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:32 AM
> * To: Ove Hoegh-Guldberg
> * Cc:
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov; Gene Shinn
> * Subject: Re:
[Coral-List] Good News from Australia
> *
> * Ove ....
> * Your research and peer-reviewed science speaks for itself.  We
are half
> * a world apart, yet your observations have been as
relevant for the Wider
> * Caribbean, as they are for the Western
Pacific.  The only difference is
> * that our problems started
about 10-12 years in advance of your's.  But
> * now ... we are
all suffering the sames woes.    Keep up the great work
> * ......
and I am confident that you will not let postings like this one
>
* distract you from your research.  Billy
> *
> * Ove
Hoegh-Guldberg wrote:
> * > Thank you Gene.
> * >
> * > Now that you have dredged this up, I feel it is important to
let the
> * > readership know, needless to say, that the column
is full of misquotes
> * > and inaccuracies.  Perhaps not
surprising given that the columnist
> * > (Andrew Bolt) is
well-known for his endless 'opinions', poor
> * > understanding
and disregard for the truth.  In this respect, he claims
> * >
that there is no science (none at all!) behind global climate change,
> * > nor truth in the fact that Australian aboriginal people
were
> mistreated
> * > in recent history (this is
despite many victims still being alive
> * > today).  With
respect to his disregard for the truth - Andrew has been
> * >
successfully sued for defamation and other inaccuracies
> * >
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Bolt). What more can I say?
>
* >
> * > This source is neither accurate nor science-based,
and perhaps should
> * > not have appeared on coral list.
> * >
> * > Regards,
> * >
> * >
Ove
> * >
> * > Ove Hoegh-Guldberg
> *
>
> * > Smart State Premier's Fellow (2008-2013), Director,
Stanford
> Australia;
> * > Reviewing Editor at Science
Magazine, and Deputy Director, ARC Centre
> * > for Excellence
in Coral Reef Studies; BLOG: www.climateshifts.org
> * >
> * >
> * > -----Original Message-----
> * >
From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> * >
[mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Gene
> Shinn
> * > Sent: Saturday, 20 December 2008 12:28 AM
> * > To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> * > Subject:
[Coral-List] Good News from Australia
> * >
> * >
Good News from the Melbourne Australia Herald Sun. "PROFESSOR Ove
> * > Hoegh-Guldberg, of Queensland University, is Australia's
most quoted
> * > reef expert.
> * > He's advised
business, green and government groups, and won our rich
> * >
Eureka Prize for scares about our reef. He's chaired a $20 million
> * > global warming study of the World Bank.
> * > In
1999, Hoegh-Guldberg warned that the Great Barrier Reef was under
> * > pressure from global warming, and much of it had turned
white.
> * > In fact, he later admitted the reef had made a
"surprising"
> recovery.
> * > In 2006, he
warned high temperatures meant "between 30 and 40 per
> *
> cent of coral on Queensland's great Barrier Reef could die within
a
> * > month".
> * > In fact, he later
admitted this bleaching had "a minimal
> impact".
> * > In 2007, he warned that temperature changes of the kind
caused by
> * > global warming were again bleaching the
reef.
> * > In fact, the Global Coral Reef Monitoring Network
last week said
> * > there had been no big damage to the reef
caused by climate change in
> * > the four years since its last
report, and veteran diver Ben Cropp
> * > said this week that
in 50 years he'd seen none at all."  Gene
> * >
>
* >
> *
> * --
> * Billy D. Causey, Ph.D.,
Regional Director
> * Southeast Atlantic, Gulf of Mexico and
Caribbean Region
> * National Marine Sanctuary Program
> *
33 East Quay Road
> * Key West, Florida 33040
> *
> * 305.809.4670 (ex 234)
> * 305.395.0150 (cell)
> *
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> *
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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:35:58 +0100 (CET)
> From: "Tim
Wijgerde" <t.wijgerde at coralscience.org>
> Subject:
[Coral-List] science outreach
> To:
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> 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> a fellow
scientist just informed me of the existence
> of this list, and I
was immediately interested. I just noticed a
> discussion about
scientists and science outreach, and the hurdles which
> have to
be overcome. I would like to add some comments to this thread if I
> may.
> 
> I am not sure if I am allowing to post a
link to a
> website, and therefore I shall not do so, but all you
need to know is that
> googling coral + science is enough to get
to the website I want to briefly
> talk about. This website is
part of a non-commercial science outreach
> project I set up last
April.
> 
> My name is Tim Wijgerde, based at
>
Wageningen University, the Netherlands, currently appointed to the EU
> project entitled CORALZOO, which aims to improve sustainable
aquaculture
> of corals through funded research. I am currently
applying for a grant to
> fund my own Ph.D, and I decided to focus
on science outreach in the
> meantime.
> 
> I am
both an aquarist and a scientist (although I
> should not call
myself this, not having earned my Ph.D. yet), and I
> noticed the
lack of communication between aquarists and scientists. I
>
noticed that both groups possessed considerable knowledge concerning
> aquaculture, so too in the field of marine/coral aquaculture. I
decided to
> put up a website, which communicates marine relatied
sciences in a
> popular-scientific manner, mainly targeting
aquarists (and divers to a
> lesser extent). The reponse as of yet
has been quite positive, and we now
> have several hundreds of
members a thousands of hits per day.
> 
> We fund the
website by cooperating with companies from the aquarium
>
industry, as our visitor demography nicely suits their interests. We
try
> to publish articles of which we think it will interest the
aquarist
> community (I have been talking about home
aquarists/hobbyists), and you
> would be surprised how many topics
actually interest the common man, but
> presentation is key.
> 
> Our website is still growing and
> improving (it
still only works fine with Mozilla firefox), and with a
> budget
of about 200 euros a month I have been able to post some nice
>
articles (at least I hope we did). Hereby I would like to ask whether
some
> of you would be willing to write a nice article for our
website. If you
> are, please contact me at my email address
(listed above) for further
> details.
> 
> We all
have to do our part, and I think we are doing
> so at this moment.
In the near future we hope to improve our website,
> especially by
publishing more articles from various disciplines related to
>
marine biology.
> 
> Thank you for your attention,
> 
> Yours,
> 
> Tim Wijgerde
> 
> 
> 
> Op Ma, 22
> december, 2008 18:00,
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>>    1. Re: Good News from
>
Australia (Christopher Hawkins)
>>    2. Re: Lionfish in
Belize
> (Thomas Murphy)
>>    3. SCIENTISTS AND THE
WIDE WORLD RE: Good
> News from Australia
>>      
(Sarah Frias-Torres)
>>    4.
> Call for Coral High
Definition Footage (Jim Hendee)
>>
>>
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008
09:18:01
> -0800 (PST)
>> From: Christopher Hawkins
> <chwkins at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Coral-List]
Good News
> from Australia
>> To:
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>> Once
> again, I think we are seeing the results of
thinking that the role of
>> the investigator is all
encompassing.? It is not.? There are a
> number of
>>
fields in which individuals are trained to understand
> the social
psyche
>> and translate that understanding into
>
effective outreach and education
>> efforts.? These include
> marketing, psychology, social psychology,
>> sociology,
and
> education.? I think we can confidently say that coral
>> physiology
> or coral microbiology are not among these
fields.? ?
>>
>>
> We currently have a
number of excellent education and outreach staff
> that
>> are doing the best with what -- in many cases -- was
>> biophysically-oriented undergraduate and graduate training.?
l
> certainly
>> was among this group in my first
couple of
> professional positions.? I
>> believe need
to augment their efforts
> by broadening our thinking when it
>> comes to the types of
> disciplines we need to bring
into the fold of what
>> is called
> coral reef
management.?
>>
>> Best,
>> Chris?
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Sat, 12/20/08,
Dokken, Dr.
> Quenton <qdokken at gulfmex.org> wrote:
>> From: Dokken, Dr.
> Quenton
<qdokken at gulfmex.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Coral-List]
> Good News from Australia
>> To: "'Billy
Causey'"
> <billy.causey at noaa.gov>, "'Ove
Hoegh-Guldberg'"
>>
> <oveh at uq.edu.au>
>> Cc: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov,
> "'Gene
Shinn'" <eshinn at marine.usf.edu>
>> Date:
>
Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:24 PM
>>
>> This
line of
> discussion highlights one of the great failures and
>>
> challenges
>> of science today - the
ability to accurately get
> science into the public's
>> awareness and understanding.
> Journalists, lawyers,
courts, vested
>> interests, etc have
> distorted fact
to support a position or advance a
>> financial
>
interest.  Scientists as a rule are not geared to working
>>
> outside
>> of peer reviewed literature.  The reality is
that peered
> reviewed science
>> is
>> not
driving society - spin masters
> are.  Just tune your TV to any
>> political
>> talking head
> program to see
reality driven by opinion/ideology and not
>>
>
fact..
>> We in science should be finding ways to work together
to
> support
>> scientific
>> reality based
on fact rather than
> biased interpretation. I believe that if
>> scientists can get
> their act together, there are many
that are ready to
>> follow.
>>
>>
Quenton Dokken, Ph.D.
>> Executive Director
>> Gulf
of Mexico Foundation, Inc.
>> PMB 51  5403 Everhart
>
Rd.
>> Corpus Christi, TX 78411
>>
>>
> 361-882-3939
>> 361-442-6064 cell
>>
>>
> qdokken at gulfmex.org
>> www.gulfmex.org
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original
Message-----
>> From:
>
coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>>
>
[mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Billy
> Causey
>> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:32 AM
>> To:
> Ove Hoegh-Guldberg
>> Cc:
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov; Gene
> Shinn
>>
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Good News from Australia
>>
>> Ove ....
>> Your research and peer-reviewed
> science speaks for itself.  We are half
>> a world
apart, yet your
> observations have been as relevant for the
Wider
>> Caribbean, as
> they are for the Western
Pacific.  The only difference is
>> that
> our problems
started about 10-12 years in advance of your's.  But
>> now ...
we are all suffering the sames woes.    Keep up the great
>
work
>> ....... and I am confident that you will not let
postings
> like this one
>> distract you from your
research.  Billy
>>
> 
>> Ove Hoegh-Guldberg
wrote:
>>> Thank you Gene.
>>>
>>> Now that you have dredged this up, I feel it is
>
important to let the
>>> readership know, needless to say,
that
> the column is full of misquotes
>>> and
inaccuracies.  Perhaps
> not surprising given that the
columnist
>>> (Andrew Bolt) is
> well-known for his
endless 'opinions', poor
>>> understanding
> and
disregard for the truth.  In this respect, he claims
>>>
> that there is no science (none at all!) behind global climate
change,
>>> nor truth in the fact that Australian aboriginal
people were
> mistreated
>>> in recent history (this
is despite many victims
> still being alive
>>>
today).  With respect to his disregard for
> the truth - Andrew
has been
>>> successfully sued for defamation
> and
other inaccuracies
>>>
>
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Bolt). What more can I say?
>>>
>>> This source is neither accurate nor
> science-based, and perhaps should
>>> not have
appeared on coral
> list.
>>>
>>>
Regards,
>>>
>>>
> Ove
>>>
>>> Ove Hoegh-Guldberg
>>>
>>> Smart State Premier's Fellow (2008-2013), Director,
Stanford
>> Australia;
>>> Reviewing Editor at
Science Magazine, and
> Deputy Director, ARC Centre
>>> for Excellence in Coral Reef
> Studies; BLOG:
www.climateshifts.org
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:
> coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>>>
>
[mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Gene Shinn
>>> Sent: Saturday, 20 December 2008 12:28 AM
>>>
To:
> coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>>> Subject:
[Coral-List] Good
> News from Australia
>>>
>>> Good News from the
> Melbourne Australia Herald
Sun. "PROFESSOR Ove
>>>
> Hoegh-Guldberg, of
Queensland University, is Australia's most quoted
>>> reef
expert.
>>> He's advised business, green and
>
government groups, and won our rich
>>> Eureka Prize for
scares
> about our reef. He's chaired a $20 million
>>> global warming
> study of the World Bank.
>>> In 1999, Hoegh-Guldberg warned that
> the Great
Barrier Reef was under
>>> pressure from global
>
warming, and much of it had turned white.
>>> In fact, he
later
> admitted the reef had made a "surprising"
>> recovery.
>>> In 2006, he warned high
temperatures meant "between 30 and
> 40 per
>>>
cent of coral on Queensland's great Barrier Reef
> could die
within a
>>> month".
>>> In fact, he
> later admitted this bleaching had "a minimal
>>
> impact".
>>> In 2007, he warned that temperature
changes of
> the kind caused by
>>> global warming
were again bleaching the
> reef.
>>> In fact, the
Global Coral Reef Monitoring Network last
> week said
>>> there had been no big damage to the reef caused by
> climate change in
>>> the four years since its last
report, and
> veteran diver Ben Cropp
>>> said this
week that in 50 years he'd
> seen none at all."  Gene
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Billy D. Causey, Ph.D., Regional Director
>>
> Southeast Atlantic, Gulf of Mexico and Caribbean Region
>> National
> Marine Sanctuary Program
>> 33
East Quay Road
>> Key West,
> Florida 33040
>>
>> 305.809.4670 (ex 234)
>>
>
305.395.0150 (cell)
>> 305.293.5011 (fax)
>>
>>
> Billy.Causey at noaa.gov
>>
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> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 23:38:44 -0500
>> From: Thomas Murphy
> <thomasmurphy at live.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Lionfish
> in Belize
>> To: Coral-List
>
<coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
>> Message-ID:
>
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>>
>> Hello Coral-Listers!
>>
>> I was hoping
> someone might be able to
help me with a problem. I have been
>>
> looking for
images of larval and pre-settlement specamine of the
> invasive
>> Lionfish (Pterois volitans). Although there is a great
> deal of literature
>> about this particular species, I
have so far
> been unable to aquire images,
>> whether
they be live or preserved.
> Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
>>
>> Thomas
> MurphyUniversity
of MiamiRosenstiel School of Marine and
>>
>
Atmospheric Science
>> Marine Biology and Fisheries4600
> Rickenbacker Cswy.Miami, FL 33149
>> Phone -
631.241.1599
>>
>   > Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008
22:49:07 -0800> From:
>>
>
albinsm at science.oregonstate.edu> To: katherine.cure at gmail.com>
> CC:
>> coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> Subject:
[Coral-List]
> Lionfish in
>> Belize> > Hi
Katherine,> > Our lab has
> been conducting a broad range
>> of lionfish research over > the
> last two years,
focusing primarily on
>> their interactions with
>>
native Bahamian reef fish. I've attached a
>> pdf of our
> recent MEPS > publication, in which we document that single
>>
> lionfish transplanted > onto small patch reefs
reduce recruitment of
>> native fishes by nearly > 80%!
Unfortunately, lionfish are
> currently
>> spreading
rapidly westward > and southward, and it
> is likely only a
>> matter of time before this > ravenous,
> invasive
predator is literally
>> all over the Caribbean. This >
> does not bode well for native reef
>> communities.>
> I'd be
> more than happy to take a look at your photos
>> and help to >
> confirm the species ID.> > I
also strongly suggest that
>>
> you report your
lionfish sighting to the > USGS
>>
>>
>
aquatic invasive species database.> > Report sightings here:
>> http://nas.er.usgs.gov/SightingReport.asp> > They seem
to
> have the most
>> comprehensive online compilation
of > lionfish
> sightings, as well as a
>> recently
updated fact sheet:> >
>>
http://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactSheet.asp?speciesID=963> >
> You can see
>> from their maps (see links in fact sheet)
that your
>> sighting, if
>> confirmed, will be the
first from Central
> America.> > Please let me know
>> if you have any questions
> about our research, or >
about lionfish in
>> general. I'd be
> happy to try to
answer them, or > refer you to someone
>> who
>
can.> > Aloha,> > Mark> >
>>
>
**************************************************> Mark A.
>
Albins>
>> Department of Zoology> Oregon State
University>
> 3029 Cordley Hall>
>> Corvallis, OR
97331-2914> phone: (541)
> 740-7747> fax: (541)
737-0501>
>>
>
**************************************************> > In response
> to:> >
>> Message: 2> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008
20:47:50
> -0600> From: "Katherine Cure"
>>
> <katherine.cure at g
>>
>> 
mail.com>> Subject:
> [Coral-List] Lionfish in Belize>
To:
>>
> coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
Message-ID:>
>>
>
<28e7be5b0812181847v5e217377oa8e22a980675b7b8 at mail.gmail.com>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Hello
to
> all,> I just got
>> the first report for
lionfishes at Turneffe
> Atoll, Belize.> I haven't
>> personally seen them, but got the
> report from dive
master at The>
>> Agressor, a local
>
liveaboard.> Pictures, gotten by a local diver on the
>>
eastern
> side of Turneffe are> available for species ID.>
Can those
>>
> colleagues involved in dealing with this
invasive species contact>
> me
>> with further
information?> Cheers,> > -- >
> Katherine Cure,
M.Sc.> Field
>> Coordinator/Coral Reef
>
Researcher> Oceanic Society> Blackbird Caye,
>>
Belize> T:
> (501) 220-4256> >
>>
>
_________________________________________________________________
>> Send e-mail anywhere. No map, no compass.
>>
>
http://windowslive.com/oneline/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_anywhere_122008
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008
05:57:41 -0500
>> From:
> Sarah Frias-Torres
<sfrias_torres at hotmail.com>
>> Subject:
>
[Coral-List] SCIENTISTS AND THE WIDE WORLD RE: Good News from
>>
> 	Australia
>> To:
<qdokken at gulfmex.org>, Billy Causey
>
<billy.causey at noaa.gov>,
>> 	<oveh at uq.edu.au>
>>
> Cc: coral list
<coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>,	Gene Shinn
>>
	<eshinn at marine.usf.edu>
>> Message-ID:
>
<BAY143-W378E4ACBC6987D912DE24781EF0 at phx.gbl>
>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> Quenton,As I have
said in previous posts to
> coral-list, it is NOT an ESS
>> (Evolutionary Sustainable Strategy)
> for any research
scientist to work or
>> talk outside the
>
peer-reviewed literature. Those who do, are punished at
>>
once.
> Much like in Plato's Myth of the Cave, those of us who
have been in
>> the outside world (outside academia and
peer-review) and report
> back on
>> the realities on
how coral reefs, and mangroves, and
> marine life in
>>
general is increasingly at risk, even after the
> volumes of
scientific
>> articles published... once we point at
>
what the realities are, we are no
>> longer research
scientists. We
> have wasted our time, because even saving a
>> coral reef, will not
> count as much as having one more
peer-reviewed
>> publication.
> Promotion, tenure, and
funding is based solely on number of
>>
> peer-reviewed
publications. So every minute spent on talking to TV, to
>>
politicians, to people at large, and tell them what really is going
> on, is
>> a minute wasted. I made this statement during
the s
>>
>>  cientists/journalists session at ICRS
this summer, and
> it was true then
>> and now. The
Australian news your bring is just
> one more example. It is
>> not that "we scientists need to get
> our act
together" it is that science,
>> in particular, marine
> science, and that concerned with the conservation
>> of
life in
> this planet, needs a new model, where it reconnects once
again
>>
> with society. Galileo Galilei and Charles
Darwin published their
>>
> groundbreaking theories in
easy to read books. And nobody doubts of
> their
>>
validity as research scientists.In a world flooded with
> print,
video, TV,
>> internet, and all sorts of media, we should
> move beyond the peer-reviewed
>> system to evaluate
someone's value
> as a scientist. A true scientist will
>> also make a great effort
> of being a true
communicator, to other
>> scientists (the world
>
minority) and to the non-scientists (the rest of
>> the world).
I
> think this is the only way there will be any surviving
>> coral
> reefs, and any marine diversity left to talk
about when
>>
>>   we are old and wrinkly and talk
to our grandchildren. Otherwise,
> we
>> might as well
tell a story about Snowhite and the Seven
> Little Coral
>> Reefs, or the Sleeping Beautiful Coral Reef, or
>
something of that
>> sort.SarahSarah Frias-Torres, Ph.D.
>>
> Marine Conservation Biologist
>> Ocean
Research & Conservation
> Association
>> 1420
Seaway Drive, 2nd Floor
>> Fort Pierce,
> Florida 34949
USA
>> www.oceanrecon.org
>>
>>
>>> From: qdokken at gulfmex.org> To: billy.causey at noaa.gov;
> oveh at uq.edu.au>
>>> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008
21:24:01 -0600>
> CC:
>>>
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov;
> eshinn at marine.usf.edu>
Subject: Re:
>>> [Coral-List] Good
> News from
Australia> > This line of discussion
>>>
>
highlights one of the great failures and challenges> of science
today
> -
>>> the ability to accurately get science
into the
> public's> awareness and
>>>
understanding.  Journalists,
> lawyers, courts, vested>
interests, etc
>>> have distorted
> fact to support
a position or advance a> financial
>>>
>
interest.  Scientists as a rule are not geared to working outside>
> of
>>> peer reviewed literature.  The reality is that
peered
> reviewed science
>>> is> not driving
society - spin masters
> are.  Just tune your TV to any
>>> political> talking head
> program to see reality
driven by
>>> opinion/ideology and not
> fact.>
We in science should be finding ways to
>>> work
>
together to support scientific> reality based on fact rather than
>>> biased interpretation. I believe that if> scientists
>>
>>  can get their act together, there are many that
are
> ready to> follow. > >
>> Quenton Dokken,
Ph.D.>
> Executive Director> Gulf of Mexico Foundation,
>> Inc.> PMB
> 51  5403 Everhart Rd.> Corpus
Christi, TX 78411> >
>>
> 361-882-3939>
361-442-6064 cell> > qdokken at gulfmex.org>
>
www.gulfmex.org>
>> > > > -----Original
>
Message-----> From:
>>
>
coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
>>
>
[mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Billy
>> Causey> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 11:32 AM>
To:
> Ove
>> Hoegh-Guldberg> Cc:
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov; Gene
> Shinn> Subject:
>> Re: [Coral-List] Good News from Australia>
>> Ove
.....> Your research and
>> peer-reviewed science speaks
> for itself.  We are half > a world apart,
>> yet
your
> observations have been as relevant for the Wider >
Caribbean, as
>> they are for the Western Pacific.  The only
difference is > that
> our
>> problems started about
10-12 years in advance of your's.
> But > now ...
>>
we are all suffering the sames woes.    Keep up
> the great work
> ......
>>
>>  and I am confident that
>
you will not let postings like this one >
>> distract you
from
> your research.  Billy> > Ove Hoegh-Guldberg
wrote:>>
>>
> Thank you Gene.  >>>>
Now that you have dredged this up, I
> feel it is
>>
important to let the>> readership know,
> needless to say,
that the column
>> is full of misquotes>>
> and
inaccuracies.  Perhaps not surprising given
>> that the
> columnist>> (Andrew Bolt) is well-known for his endless
>>
> 'opinions', poor>> understanding and disregard
for the truth.  In
> this
>> respect, he claims>>
that there is no science (none
> at all!) behind
>>
global climate change,>> nor truth in the
> fact that
Australian aboriginal
>> people were mistreated>>
> in recent history (this is despite many victims
>> still
being
> alive>> today).  With respect to his disregard for
the truth
>> - Andrew has been>> successfully sued for
defamation and
> other
>> inaccuracies>>
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Bolt). What more can
>> I
> say?>>>> This source is neither
accurate nor science-based,
> and perhaps
>> shou
>>
>>  ld>> not have
> appeared on coral
list.>>>> Regards,>>>>
>
Ove>>>> Ove
>> Hoegh-Guldberg>>>>
Smart
> State Premier's Fellow (2008-2013), Director,
>> Stanford
> Australia;>> Reviewing Editor at
Science Magazine, and Deputy
>> Director, ARC Centre>>
for Excellence in Coral Reef Studies;
> BLOG:
>>
www.climateshifts.org>>>>>>
> -----Original
Message----->> From:
>>
>
coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>>
>>
>
[mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Gene
> Shinn>>
>> Sent: Saturday, 20 December 2008 12:28
AM>>
> To:
>>
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>> Subject: [Coral-List]
>
Good News from
>> Australia>>>> Good News from
the
> Melbourne Australia Herald Sun.
>>
"PROFESSOR Ove >>
> Hoegh-Guldberg, of Queensland
University, is
>> Australia's most
> quoted>>
reef expert.>> He's advised business, green and
>>
government groups, and won our rich >> Eureka Prize for
>
scares about our
>> reef. He's chaired a $20 million
>>
> global warming study of the World
>> Bank. 
>> In 1999,
> Hoegh-Guldberg warned that the Great Barrier
Reef was
>>
>>
>   under >> pressure
from global warming, and much of it had
> turned
>>
white.>> In fact, he later admitted the reef had
> made a
"surprising"
>> recovery.>> In 2006, he
> warned high temperatures meant "between 30 and
>>
40 per
>>> cent of coral on Queensland's great Barrier Reef
could die
>> within a >> month".>> In fact, he
later admitted
> this bleaching had "a
>> minimal
impact".>> In
> 2007, he warned that temperature
changes of the
>> kind caused by
>>> global
warming were again bleaching the reef.>> In
>> fact, the
Global Coral Reef Monitoring Network last week said
>>>
there
>> had been no big damage to the reef caused by
>
climate change in >> the
>> four years since its last
report,
> and veteran diver Ben Cropp >> said
>>
this week that in 50
> years he'd seen none at all." 
Gene>>>>   > > --
>>
>> Billy D.
Causey, Ph.D., Regional Director> Southeast
> Atlantic, Gulf
of
>> Mexico and Caribbean Region> National
> Marine
Sanctuary Program> 33 East
>> Quay Road> Key West,
> Florida 33040> > 305.809.4670 (ex 234)>
>>
305.395.0150
> (cel
>>
>>  l)>
305.293.5011 (fax)> >
> Billy.Causey at noaa.gov> >
>>
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>>
> Message: 4
>> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008
07:09:28 -0500
>> From:
> Jim Hendee
<jim.hendee at noaa.gov>
>> Subject: [Coral-List]
>
Call for Coral High Definition Footage
>> To: Coral-List
> Subscribers <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
>>
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>>
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>>
>> The following posting by Maria
> Barry has had trouble
getting out; here
>> it is, and sorry it has
> taken so
long.
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
> From:  Maria.Barry at noaa.gov
>>
>> Call for Coral High
> Definition Footage
>>
>>  The NOAA Coral Reef Conservation
>
Program is in the beginning stages of
>> creating
multi-media
> content for our web site and other outreach
>> products. We will be
> producing at least four 3-5
minute videos covering
>> the following
> areas:
Overview of Coral Reefs and their Threats,
>> Land-based
> sources of Pollution and Corals Reefs; Adverse Impacts of
>>
> Fishing and Coral Reefs; and Climate Change and
Corals.  In addition to
>> the videos your footage may be
included in educational kiosks,
> local
>> PSAs,
content for cruise lines and hotel channels,
> YouTube, etc.
>>
>> If you are a budding or professional
>
videographer and have High
>> Definition footage that you
would
> like to donate to NOAA we would
>> greatly
appreciate your
> contributions.  You, of course will receive
>> credit and we will
> work with you individually to nail
down the terms of
>> your
> release. This is a unique
opportunity to lend your images to help
>> NOAA get the word
out to the general public on coral reefs and
> their
>>
threats. Our footage needs include: coral reef threats,
> impacts
of
>> pollution, impacts of fishing, climate change,
>
general coral, healthy
>> corals, unhealthy corals, corals
and
> fish, underwater shots, shoreline
>> shots,
coastal development,
> marine debris and corals, bleached
corals,
>> plumes, coral
> spawning and more.  Please
only submit footage that is
>> shot in
> High
Definition.
>>
>> Please email me at
>
Maria.Barry at noaa.gov or call me at 301-563-1167 if
>> you have
High
> Definition footage or if you have contacts with folks
who
>> have
> footage (unfortunately, we are not able
to pay for footage at his
>> time).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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>>
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>

> 
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> Wijgerde, M.Sc.
> CEO Coral
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>
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> 
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:04:03
+1000
> From: " Undersea Explorer Bio"
<bio at undersea.com.au>
> Subject: [Coral-List] Field research
opportunity available in Port
> 	Douglas,	Australia
> To:
<coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
> Message-ID:
<20081223062417.0936D2BF3B6 at hosted01.westnet.com.au>
>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
> 
> The Undersea Explorer is pleased to announce the availability of
research
> spots on 3 and 6 day dive trips on the Great Barrier
Reef and the Coral
> Sea.
> Undersea Explorer is a
liveaboard scuba diving operation based in Port
> Douglas,
Australia, that combines adventure diving with marine research
>
and
> education. We harness the tourist dollar to undertake,
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> promote research which contributes to knowledge
and conservation of marine
> ecosystems, as well as creating
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Undersea Explorer has been undertaken in different
> disciplines
and has had varied focuses (e.g. minke whales, sharks,
>
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> 
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> Our itinerary is somewhat
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> Please
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> 
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