[Coral-List] Coral Diving Award

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Wed Dec 23 10:23:25 EST 2009


Also Jerry Allen, a Jack protoge.  Now, of course, he is climbing 
mountains!

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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009, John McManus wrote:

> I think that if we include 'scientists' in the formal sense as those who
> have contributed peer reviewed scientific literature, that eliminates a
> number of dive masters who have dived more days each year as adults than
> they have not.
>
> Among the formal scientist group, I suspect that Jack Randall may indeed be
> the leader. I believe that he dived in every sector of every major coral
> reef area, and had trouble finding new species of fish to look at in waters
> above 30m several decades ago.
>
> Others who have spent enormous amounts of time underwater on a broad variety
> of reefs include Jim Maragos and Tom Goreau. However, they had later starts
> than Jack.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> John
>
> John W. McManus, PhD
> Director, National Center for Coral Reef Research (NCORE)
> Professor, Marine Biology and Fisheries
> Coral Reef Ecology and Management Lab (CREM Lab)
> Rosenstiel School of Marine and Atmospheric Science (RSMAS)
> University of Miami, 4600 Rickenbacker Causeway, Miami, 33149
> jmcmanus at rsmas.miami.edu      http://ncore.rsmas.miami.edu
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>
>  "If I cannot build it, I do not understand it."
>              --Richard Feynman, Nobel Laureate
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> [mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Delbeek,
> Charles
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:09 PM
> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Coral Diving Award
>
> I would think that Jack Randall would be at the top if not very near to it.
> He has been diving since before there was a NAUI/PADI. I would say
> early-50's maybe? There is a recent bio of him here:
>
> http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/FISH/Gallery/Gallery.htm
>
> The other person might be Charlie Veron?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> J. Charles Delbeek, M.Sc.
> Senior Aquatic Biologist, Steinhart Aquarium
> California Academy of Sciences
> 55 Music Concourse Dr.
> San Francisco CA 94118
>
> phone (415) 379-5303
> fax (415) 379-5304
> cdelbeek at calacademy.org
> www.calacademy.org
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> [mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Jim Hendee
> Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 7:44 AM
> To: Coral-List Subscribers
> Subject: [Coral-List] Coral Diving Award
>
> Greeting again...
>
>    As the subject of a good story and for purposes of a follow-up
> award, Dave Fuzzo has asked if he could query Coral-List subscribers to
> determine who has dived longer and in more places than any coral
> scientist.  He will follow-up in January, but for the time being, I
> guess some of the qualifiers we can think of are:
>
>    * Does "any coral scientist" include deceased divers?  Like, does
>      Jacques Cousteau pass muster?
>    * Which leads to the next question:  How do we define "scientist?"
>      Peer-reviewed publications?  What about those folks who dive
>      thousands of hours on, say, the GBR for the benefit of the
>      science, but themselves don't publish?  I know guys who dive every
>      single week of the year, and they have an education in marine
>      biology or oceanography, but they don't publish.
>    * When considering places dived, does that include repeat dives, or
>      unique sites, and if so, what about spatial separation of said
>      sites?  (Like, does a dive 100 m down the beach count?)
>    * What constitutes the proof for purposes of the Award?  Logged
>      dives in an official log for, say, PADI?
>    * Should there be an official end date for the tally (say, June, 2010)?
>    * What should the name of the Award be?
>
>    Whoever "wins" almost doesn't matter, because the stories that will
> come out of this would be accounts of some great adventures and some
> nice chronicles in coral reef research.  The top head-soakers, whoever
> they may be, certainly deserve recognition, that's for sure, and I hope
> they get international recognition beyond what they might already have.
> After all, it's a significant risk with every dive, as TG could
> certainly attest.
>
>    Just some thoughts for the coming weeks...
>
>    Cheers,
>    Jim
>
>
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