[Coral-List] de'ath et al on coralscience.org

Fri Jan 16 11:00:28 EST 2009

Dear all,

this afternoon I wrote a little article on the
publication of De'ath et al, to again point out the negative effects of
climate change on the Earth's coral reefs. Again, only Mozilla Firefox
works well with our website.

http://www.coralscience.org/home/content/view/176/1/lang,english/

Best

Tim

Op Do, 15 januari, 2009 18:00,
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> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:59:38
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> From: Alan E Strong <Alan.E.Strong at noaa.gov>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] SPPI report on climate change and
coral
> 	reefs
> To: John Bruno <jbruno at unc.edu>
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> In attempting to put
any rationale [if possible] behind some of their
> statements,
perhaps the first wiggling on SPPI's behalf would be to
> respond
to the first statement quoted by you, John, to be something
>
like:...."well, it depends on the time of year"..."high
temperatures in
> the winter are not likely to cause bleaching but
in the peak summertime
> months they are likely to be more
important" ..."and...it depends on
> duration of these
high SSTs....not simply a quick high temperature spike
> but high
SSTs over a prolonged time"....etc.  The key word here, they
> might argue, would be the word "simple"....need I go
further??
> 
> I find it a curiosity that all the SPPI
Board holders are apparently
> from the same family [same last
name!!]
> 
> hmmm..
> 
> Al
> 
> John Bruno said the following on 1/14/2009 6:30 AM:
>>
Just when you thought you'd seen it all, the "Science and Public
Policy
>> Institute" issues a report about climate change
and coral reefs,
>> claiming to debunk all our worst fears:
>>
>>
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/originals/co2_coral_warming.html
>>
>> Also see Rachael Middlebrook's blog post about
this here:
>> http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=1028
>>
>> Perhaps we could take a time out from the
circular firing squad that is
>> the coral-list and focus on
debunking some really dodgy science. If
>> coral-listers wrote
rebuttals to specific claims in the SPPI report, we
>> could
post them on climateshifts.org. Here are a few highlights from the
>> report:
>>
>> "There is no simple
linkage between high temperatures and coral
>>
bleaching."
>>
>> "The persistence of
coral reefs through geologic time ? when
>> temperatures were
as much as 10-15?C warmer than at present, and
>> atmospheric
CO2 concentrations were 2 to 7 times higher than they are
>>
currently ? provides substantive evidence that these marine entities
can
>> successfully adapt to a dramatically changing global
environment. Thus,
>> the recent die-off of many corals cannot
be due solely, or even mostly,
>> to global warming or the
modest rise in atmospheric CO2 concentration
>> over the course
of the Industrial Revolution."
>>
>> "The
18- to 59-cm warming-induced sea level rise that is predicted for
>> the coming century by the IPCC ? which could be greatly
exaggerated if
>> predictions of CO2-induced global warming are
wrong ? falls well within
>> the range (2 to 6 mm per year) of
typical coral vertical extension
>> rates, which exhibited a
modal value of 7 to 8 mm per year during the
>> Holocene and
can be more than double that value in certain branching
>>
corals. Rising sea levels should therefore present no difficulties for
>> coral reefs. In fact, rising sea levels may actually have a
positive
>> effect on reefs, permitting increased coral growth
in areas that have
>> already reached the upward limit imposed
by current sea levels."
>>
>> "Theoretical
predictions indicate that coral calcification rates should
>>
decline as a result of increasing atmospheric CO2 concentrations by as
>> much as 40% by 2100. However, real-world observations indicate
that
>> elevated CO2 and elevated temperatures are having just
the opposite
>> effect."
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:09:46 -0500
> From: "Steve
Mussman" <sealab at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Coral-List]
SPPI Report
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> Just a
quick response to John Bruno's post on the SPPI report on climate
> change and coral reefs
> from a non-scientist. The general
public needs your efforts in the respect
> that John suggests.
> 
> These reports that claim to disprove the impact of
climate change are very
> effectively used to convince
>
the general public that this is an issue that has been blown out of all
> reasonable proportion.
> You in the scientific community
may view it as an annoying concern
> unworthy of debate,
>
but it must be consistently countered in the public domain if reason is
to
> prevail.
> 
> 
> 
> Steve
Mussman
> sealab at earthlink.net
> EarthLink Revolves Around
You.
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