[Coral-List] "sarcasm, endless disagreements, personal attacks..."

Ulf Erlingsson ceo at lindorm.com
Wed Dec 1 09:26:21 EST 2010

IMHO he is right. Although the AGW debate here has led to some useful  
contacts and results, they were not coral-related, and thus really  
outside the scope of the list.


On 2010-12-01, at 08:44, Jim Hendee wrote:

> I usually don't forward messages, rather encourage direct submission,
> but this one is special.
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: 	Re: [Coral-List] More La Ninia
> Date: 	Wed, 01 Dec 2010 08:13:09 -0500
> From: 	
> To: 	Jim Hendee <Jim.Hendee at noaa.gov>
> Good morning Jim, I assume you are the editor/manager of the list?   
> I am writing to you directly, not the list.  I am a coastal  
> engineer, also subscriber to the coastal list sponsored by UDEL.   
> Earlier this year, I joined coral list, as I have become more  
> involved in artificial reef design, am working more closely with  
> marine biologists...Basically I joined coral list hoping to gain  
> insight/knowledge, and to experience the same type benefits  
> demonstrated by the coastal list.
> What a stark contrast between the two lists.  Where the coastal  
> list provides single threaded, concise announcements/responses,  
> such as information on upcoming events, data, employment opps/ 
> resumes, projects, research (is there a paper or research on xyz,  
> if so please share info on subject, etc.), it is not an open forum  
> for sarcasm, endless disagreements, personal attacks, belittling  
> others, questioning their knowledge or lack thereof, questioning  
> the motives of the US Govt in the aftermath of the oil spill, etc....
> My experience with the coral list, unfortunately, has been deeply  
> disappointing and inadvertantly humorous, but in a pitiful way,  
> only a handful of the 20+ daily posts (which I assume are edited  
> for content/appropriateness?) are actually informative (from my  
> perspective).   As an engineer (believe it or not, some of us  
> coastal engineers are also lumped into the tree hugger category),  
> it is precisely this type of preconceived behavior/reputation among  
> environmental professionals that discourages and actually frightens  
> other professionals within the coastal industry of possible project  
> derailment and delays.
> I sincerely hope you will consider re-evaluating the purpose and  
> functions of the list, and encourage those who disagree/insult  
> repeatedly to take it up between themselves, off list.  Unless the  
> purpose of the list is in fact this sort of thing (ongoing  
> debates), then I will remove myself from the coral debate list, as  
> I have gained very little insight, a few chuckles, and mostly junk  
> mail.
> If you agree with me and wish to post this (which will probably  
> receive the same type of insulting backlash), please do so  
> anonymously, remove my name/email address if it might help you in  
> your efforts to reign in the list.  In my opinion, its in a  
> perpetual state of spirally out of control.
> Thanks for listening,
> ...anonymous...
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