[Coral-List] Endangered species status will be considered for 82 corals

[Dixon Waruinge]

Billy
Nice story Billy, you should have posted your effigy that the Conch 
Coalition and the treasure hunters burned at one of the hearings in the 
summer of 1992  plus the  flattened car tyres as they campaigned against 
the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary; it left an indelible mark in 
me, and  it was also a good  lesson on how misinformation works. 
 In practice we  do not protect a habitat, or a species because we have 
all the answers, we do so primarily because we do not have the answers. 
Any action towards protection,( in this case listing) is  a demonstration 
that, there are people  that are  willing to create the awareness that 
will help to generate the answers for better management, which may very 
well  mean de-listing at a later stage. 
Dixon G Waruinge
dixon.waruinge at unep.org
www.unep.org/NairobiConvention
www.unep.org/AbidjanConvetion



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Gene,
Let me tell you a little story.  You will recall the Conch Coalition, the 
so-called "grass-roots" group that formed in the Florida Keys to oppose 
the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary in the early to mid-1990's.  I 
said so-called and put "grass-roots" in parenthesis because some of their 
organizers came from out of town and a local investigative reporter found 
funding links back to the wise-use movement.

But to get to my point, Conch Coalition representatives began a 
door-to-door campaign, especially in the Upper Keys telling people such 
things as, "if you loose the roof on your house in a hurricane, the 
Sanctuary will not let you rebuild!". Or, a real frightening bit of 
mis-leading, malicious fabrication was "if your car leaks oil on your 
driveway, NOAA will fine you $100 thousand dollars."  They were full of 
lies and mis-information and single income or retired individuals believed 
them at first.

However, when these malicious and false claims did not happen, even 
multiple hurricane strikes later.... the credibility of the Conch 
Coalition was affected.  Those that came from the outside are gone and 
support for the Sanctuary has swung to the positive side.

Now ... I recall you made similar claims about the listing of Acropora 
species .... Yet your falsely based predictions haven't taken place.

I share this story about how the Conch Coalition tarnished and lost their 
credibility in the Keys as a long time friend.

Billy

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Subject: [Coral-List] Endangered species status will be considered for 82  
    corals

Coral-Listers, Be careful what you wish for and beware of, "The Law
of unintended consequences."  At stake is the listing of 82 species
of corals which is the first step toward making all Atlantic  coral
reefs off limits to divers and researchers (except for an elite few).
Imagine the increased paperwork ect., that will be required to obtain
a permit to study any of these corals or a reef where they live. If
passed the next step will  be designation of critical habitats to
protect these species----from what? and how? Every scuba diver
bubbles Co2 into the water, (exhaled breath contains up to 40,000 ppm
Co2).Down the road we may have to stop scuba diving or mandate the
use of rebreathers. The Co2 battle is being fought vigorously on many
other fronts  so why use corals as pawns to create a new tangle of
government regulations and bureaucrats? What is really behind this?
Job creation? More coral police? The only winners I see will be the
lawyers! I think that this time The Center for Biodiversity has gone
over the top and is more obstructionist than I ever thought they
would be. I wonder who supports them? How do they get their funding?
Now that's something to ponder! Lets be reasonable!  This action is
not going to save  corals. Just look to the geologic record. The
grandest reefs the world has ever known grew during the Cretaceous
when Co2 levels were more than 7 times present levels. To and Earth
scientist this action appears to be just one more issue for people to
disagree on in a country already so politically divided on most any
subject one can think of. No this is not Glen Beck speaking... Gene
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