[Coral-List] Oil and corals

[James Cervino PhD.]

Hi Steve & Gene,

I received a call from a reporter that claimed that some scientists said that
"the oil spill" will not harm the the corals.

Gene; I am sorry if my swipe came out like Steve mentions; however, I know you
like to get a rile out of us liberals that believe in anthropogenically induced
global warming, well it worked.... I feed into this all the time, however, I
posted something due to wanting journalists to see that there are many of us,
based on our experimental data, that oil spills are toxic, kill corals and
other invertebrates causing massive ecological damage that is un-imaginable.

I respect the work that Gene has conducted; however, I am allowed to have an
opinion as well be vocal against the oil machine.


Regards, James "who took the bate"


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Dr. James M. Cervino
Visiting Scientist
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute
Contact Information:
NYC Address: 9-22 119st
College Point New York, 11356
Cell: 917-620*5287
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Quoting Steve LeGore <slegore at mindspring.com>:

* I think you overstepped in your final paragraph, Jim.  I have seen some very
* good work done by petroleum industry-funded researchers over the years (and
* some not so good) and I have seen some pretty simplistic stuff done in
* academia (and much good).  I have also seen good data misinterpreted and
* misused by Public Relations people on ALL sides of oil spill issues.  Your
* statement implies that all work supported by "big oil" is specious, which I
* think is a pretty broad brush stroke that does disservice to many good and
* honest people.  I would rather see the debate forwarded based on factual
* data, and not on character aspersions.
*
* Steve LeGore
*
* -----Original Message-----
* >From: "James Cervino PhD." <jcervino at whoi.edu>
* >Sent: May 2, 2010 6:14 PM
* >To: Walter Goldberg <goldberg at fiu.edu>
* >Cc: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov" <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
* >Subject: [Coral-List]  Oil and corals
* >
* >Dear Walter, Thank you for your refreshing posting. I also did experiments
* with
* >Montastraea exposed to mild doses of crude oil; the corals began to expel
* their
* >algae within 24hrs, similar to the expulsion rates with mild doses of HCN..
* The
* >difference between the HCN exposure and crude oil exposure was; cell death
* was
* >quicker with cyanide, and exposure to oil was slower. One quick note though;
* >mucus production and buildup of Sulfide fouling was only associated with
* crude
* >oil exposure.
* >
* >I remember a few folks denying that HCN killed the corals. However, with
* Jones &
* >Oves work on the the inhibition of Photosynthesis using the PAM and the work
* Dr
* >Goreau, Hays and I did, we were able to shut down the deniers claims very
* >quickly.
* >
* >I guess we are in a similar situation in this current time; in that some
* will
* >now minimize the effects of crude oil spills and its toxicity effects on
* >corals! Those "good ole folks" that are employed by big oil, will stop at
* >nothing to get your eyes to not believe what they are seeing.
* >
* >Good Day!
* >
* >*************************************
* >Dr. James M. Cervino
* >Visiting Scientist
* >Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute
* >Contact Information:
* >NYC Address: 9-22 119st
* >College Point New York, 11356
* >Cell: 917-620*5287
* >************************************
* >
* >
* >Quoting Walter Goldberg <goldberg at fiu.edu>:
* >
* >* Listers, for those of you who want to get a better background on the
* >* relationship between corals and oil spills than might be revealed by one
* >* person's personal experience and opinions, please see NOAA's manual on the
* >* subject:
* >* http://response.restoration.noaa.gov
* >* Scroll down to their 10 MB pdf Oil Spills and Coral Reefs, which in part
* >* states:
* >* The old notion that coral reefs do not suffer acute toxicity effects from
* oil
* >* floating over them
* >* is probably incorrect. Certainly, direct coating increases the severity of
* >* impact, but oil concentrations
* >* attainable during a spill may also kill some species.
* >* Cheers,
* >* Walter M. Goldberg, Ph.D.
* >* Professor of Biological Sciences
* >* Florida International University
* >* University Park Campus
* >* Miami, FL 33199
* >* email goldberg at fiu.edu
* >*
* >* Message: 2
* >* Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 13:03:49 -0400
* >* From: Eugene Shinn <eshinn at marine.usf.edu>
* >* Subject: [Coral-List] Disaster in the Gulf and Coral Reefs
* >* To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
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* >*      With the developing oil disaster in the Gulf, I thought a few
* >* comments regarding the effects of crude oil on coral reefs might be
* >* healthful. Some of you know my background in the industry and my work
* >* with API committees before 1974. In 1972, I ...........+ 6 paragraphs not
* >* reproduced here.
* >*
* >*
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