[Coral-List] Need for more oil

Julian @ Reefcheck Malaysia julian at reefcheck.org.my
Tue May 18 22:30:16 EDT 2010

My father (who is English, by the way) was an engineer in power stations for
many years, and has a thorough understanding of how national power systems
work. He despairs of the current situation in the UK where the government is
planning to "put all its eggs in one basket" and build thousands of offshore
wind turbines to meet our energy needs. Some simple maths tells anyone with
a calculator (or envelope to hand) that it just ain't gonna work. 

Can someone tell me how we get this message across to the politicians who
are playing with our money?

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[mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Quenton Dokken
Sent: Wednesday, 19 May, 2010 3:20 AM
To: 'Eugene Shinn'; coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Need for more oil

Strong commentary Gene.  We must also deal with the issue of visual
pollution by wind turbines and space allocations for solar.  We seem to be
caught between a rock and a hard place.


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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Eugene Shinn
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 11:01 AM
To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
Subject: [Coral-List] Need for more oil

>Dear Listers who wish to end oil use.  An interesting article  was 
>published recently in the NYTimes titled  "A Bad Bet On Carbon." The 
>article lists a number of problems with Co2 sequestration but the 
>significant one had to do with scale. Here is the direct quote. 
>"The third, and most vexing, problem has to do with scale. In 2009, 
>carbon dioxide emissions in the United States totaled 5.4 billion 
>tons. Lets assume that policymakers want to use carbon capture to 
>get rid of half of those emissions---say 3 billion tons per year. 
>That works out to about 8.2 million tons of carbon dioxide per day, 
>which would have to be collected and compressed to about 1,000 psi 
>(that compressed volume of carbon dioxide would be roughly 
>equivalent to the volume of daily global oil production).
>    In other words, we would need to find an underground location (or 
>locations) able to swallow a volume equal to the contents of 41 oil 
>supertankers each day, 365 days a year."
>     The rest of the article is about the 23,000 miles of new 
>pipeline needed and the social problems with property rights and the 
>25% reduced output of power plants due to carbon capture.

Any thinking person can see this is a near impossible task in the 
near term even if the figure is cut in half. Many look to France for 
Co2 reduction where its no secret that they do it using nuclear 
energy and reprocess the waste. They even export some electricity to 
other European nations.  If you believe Co2 is a real problem for 
corals and want to reduce oil use we should do what the French did. 
That way we can remain productive and not depend on foreign sources 
of goods such as the computers on which we write these messages. Gene




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