[Coral-List] Great Barrier Reef is rapidly losing coral

[Steve Mussman]

   Bill,


     I certainly don't refer to everyone who disagrees with my view on climate
   change as a pseudo-scientist.

     I honestly try to avoid what might be considered ridicule although I feel
   that some remarks deserve an aggressive challenge.

     If you contend that AGW or what I refer to as climate change is based on
   pseudo-science, it becomes more difficult to respond graciously. But I can
   try.

     Could you please explain why these well respected (not pseudo) scientists
   omitted the effects of the Sun from their consensus statement?

     [1]http://www.icrs2012.com/Consensus_Statement.htm

     Do you actually believe that there is a world-wide conspiracy to mislead
   based on data mined deliberately from maniplulated computer models?

     You can respond off-list if you prefer. I'm uncomfortable using my name
   as the subject line.


      Regards,

       Steve





   -----Original Message-----
   >From: Bill Raymond
   >Sent: Oct 31, 2012 9:55 AM
   >To: Coral List
   >Subject: [Coral-List] Mussman
   >
   >You call anyone who disagrees with you a pseudo-scientist? Anthropogenic
   Global Warming is pseudo-science. It has not been proven, yet you ridicule
   anyone who dares to challenge it.. When someone disagrees with AGW, you
   throw in their face all the arguments for climate change. Climate change is
   not the issue; greenhouse gases being the cause is. You know the climate has
   changed many times before. Yet you continue to ignore the obvious cause: the
   sun. Pseudo-science is articles such as comparing the sun-spot cycle to past
   ones and concluding greenhouse gases must be the cause, with no supporting
   evidence other than computer models, which will show whatever you want them
   to. The IPCC, in considering the evidence, concludes the solar imput since
   1750 has not changed significantly to explain the present climate change,
   but greenhouse gases have risen, ergo that must be the cause. During that
   same period, the third lobe of the Little Ice Age proceeded, ca.
   > 1775, and sea level DROPPED until the nineteenth century started, glaciers
   readvanced globally, and the only explanation is the sun. We may not fully
   understand the sun, but to rule it out as the cause of the present climate
   change is real pseudo-science.
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References

   1. http://www.icrs2012.com/Consensus_Statement.htm