[Coral-List] Massive Coral Die Off in Kauai, Hawaii

Dustan, Phillip DustanP at cofc.edu
Sun Sep 30 05:59:18 EDT 2012


Hi Don,
 Think of the runoff as "watershed effluent". Terrestrial systems tend to be very conservative with nutrients and carbon. Human development disrupts what Likens and Borman (Hubbard Brook Forest Study) termed the Intrasystem Cycle". Once it is disrupted the systems bleeds out its nutrients and carbon because there is no buffer.  It many ways it is very similar to butchering an animal. No one stops to think about natural systems as nutrient storage containers, the mineralomass of the ecosystem. The model is ritually universal in its applicability to what has been termed LBSP - a term that rolls off the tongue easily and more politically correct.
     Phil Dustan




On Sep 28, 2012, at 5:01 PM, Don Baker wrote:

> 
> Alan:
> 
> You hit it on the nail head.  Yes indeed their is a link with regards to human sewage / waste in the same run off.  Recent pubs have well document this correlation and the disease syndromes affecting coral reefs worldwide.
> 
> Human development has always gone hand in hand with cutting costs and if a developer can get away with an inadequately sized and poorly designed, cheap waste water treatment system they will go for it.  Sure not all developers will neglect their waste components but then a good many will to cut costs.   You can especially see this blatantly throughout the Philippines when you are walking the sandy beaches in front of so-called 'beach resorts' and have to step over septic tank water draining into shallow water at low tide...with tourists splashing around and snorkeling in the same receiving water.
> 
> Caio,
> Don
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Alan.e.strong <alan.e.strong at noaa.gov>
> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov 
> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 10:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Massive Coral Die Off in Kauai, Hawaii
> 
> Kauai had record rainfall/runoff during March.  Is there a possible link 
> with what is being reported there and low salinity water??
> 
> Al
> 
> 
> On 9/26/2012 6:52 PM, Melbourne Briscoe wrote:
>> Did I miss a post somewhere? I see no relationship between this post and the
>> previous posts kin this thread. Where did the mention of Navy tests come
>> from?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>> [mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of rnharag
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 5:04 PM
>> To: underwater2web at gmail..com; greta at hawaii.edu
>> Cc: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Massive Coral Die Off in Kauai, Hawaii
>> 
>> Terry Lilley and Greta Aeby,
>> 
>> Sorry by my English,
>> 
>> Dear Terry, his distrust of the Navy tests are perfectly correct, since the
>> technology is expected to generate microwaves, that are very harmful to
>> corals when it occurs in conjunction with eletromagnetic distortions and
>> Beta radioactivity coming from underground.
>> 
>> When speaking of coral bleaching caused by global climate change, normally
>> we relate the causes are acidification and rising sea temperature, however
>> global warming also causes heating in the core of the planet and therefore
>> an imbalance in electromagnetic emanation and Beta radioactivity across the
>> Earth's surface.
>> 
>> This heater core is causing electromagnetic interference to the corals and
>> all living beings, reducing the defenses of the immune system, allowing the
>> emergence of diseases that did not exist before. In the last three years
>> this imbalance has increased rapidly in the planet and the fact that the
>> region is Hawaii's volcanic raises the level of inbalance which together
>> with the action of microwave sparked a massive degeneration. However if it
>> had been with microwave could have been a rise in sea's temperature.
>> 
>> These imbalance were also detected in our harmonizations presented on our
>> site www.coralsurvival.com.br , but not at levels as high as in Hawaii.
>> 
>> This is a way to find the cause of disease in corals even further afield the
>> coast, which can be neutralized as explained on our website.
>> 
>> I hope I had helped and that you can direct the scientific research to
>> prove.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> Ricardo Haraguchi
>> ricardo at coralsurvival.com.br
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>> [mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Guin
>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 4:17 PM
>> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>> Subject: [Coral-List] Massive Coral Die Off in Kauai, Hawaii
>> 
>> 
>>   
>> [1]http://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii/Scientists-investigate-reports-of-a-massi
>>   
>> ve-coral-deaths-off-Kauai/-/8905354/16699168/-/item/1/-/hetcup/-/index.html
>> 
>>      [2]http://underwater2web.com/
>> 
>>      Please   contact   Terry   Lilley   with   any   info  regarding  this
>>      matter underwater2web@[3]gmail.com or Greta Aeby [4]greta at hawaii.edu
>> 
>>      It's very disturbing that not only the coral are being effected by this.
>> 
>>      ~Guin
>> 
>> References
>> 
>>      1.
>> http://www.kitv.com/news/hawaii/Scientists-investigate-reports-of-a-massive-
>> coral-deaths-off-Kauai/-/8905354/16699168/-/item/1/-/hetcup/-/index.html
>>      2. http://underwater2web.com/
>>      3. http://gmail.com/
>>      4. mailto:greta at hawaii.edu
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