[Coral-List] What agency should list corals

Ligia Collado-Vides colladol at fiu.edu
Thu Apr 4 09:34:59 EDT 2013


Dear all,

I almost never participate in this list, but this conversation is really making me shake.

What we want?  a planet full of selfish elderly? Trying to keep their lives as long as possible?. Exhausting the resources we already used to the extreme? What generation are we? We are asking all the sacrifices to the next generation, even to stop reproducing because we are too many? Why should they? 

Be a little more rational, a planned population growth, not 3 kids, but one.. Try to die earlier, why we need to be here and use the space the next generation needs? Have a generation deprived of having kids and supporting us as we grow older, and on top of that needing to clean the planet?

Wow

Ligia

Ligia (AKA Claudia) Collado-Vides PhD
Lecturer-Researcher
Department of Biology, Marine Macroalgae Research Laboratory
Florida International University
11200 SW 8th Street, Building OE Room 167, Miami FL 33199
Web page: www.marinemacroalgae.fiu.edu
Email: colladol at fiu.edu
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-----Original Message-----
From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov [mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Szmant, Alina
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:13 AM
To: Steve Ord; coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] What agency should list corals

I totally get your point, and agree that 'charity starts at home'.  FYI, I had my daughter when I was 42 so at least I lengthened the generation time.  And I am encouraging her to adopt instead of having a child when she comes to that time in her life (she isn't sure she wants to have kids in any case; she teaches middle schoolers).  And I have solar panels on my home, and drive a Pruis, and have become a vegetarian.  But I do sin:  I fly in airplanes, I drink Diet Coke that comes in plastic bottles (but I will walk a mile to recycle that bottle).  We do what we can, and we could all do more.  But too many people don't do anything, and don't even recognize the problem.  That IS the problem.  If the problem were seen for what it is, the collective 'we' would be doing more to resolve it, including dis-incentivizing larger families,  greatly reducing our excess consumption of trivial goods, and stop developing fossil fuel resources (and looking for new ones).

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Dr. Alina M. Szmant
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Center for Marine Science and Dept of Biology and Marine Biology University of North Carolina Wilmington
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-----Original Message-----
From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov [mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Steve Ord
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2013 9:31 PM
To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] What agency should list corals




And how would you feel Dr. Szmant if an outside government said that you couldn't have your 24 year old daughter because the world was too overcrowded? Here's the problem: Yes the world is too crowded, and yes food and resources are becoming scarcer because there are more people in the world. Ecosystems are degrading because of human consumption and behaviors at a mass level. But these problems aren't problems unless they start to affect us. And we point the finger and say that this is somebody else's fault as long as it doesn't interfere with our own standard of living. The minute it affects us it's a different story. Would you be willing to give up the ability to procreate because somebody else said the world was too overcrowded? The ability to have children is the most powerful biological driving force in society. To deny one group procreation rights while maintaining your own is the very essence of oppression.

 		 	   		  
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