[Coral-List] Diver Distance From Reef
Rudy Bonn
rudy_bonn at yahoo.com
Wed Jul 31 09:45:39 EDT 2013
I would have to say that education is the way to avoid physical disturbance to a reef by divers and snorkelers. Many dive shops and those that operate snorkel trips are only interested in the money, load the boat with as many paying customers as they can. I have seen people standing on reefs in Key West, among other things, and the reefs there do not look very good in my opinion. The Tortugas is better, but signs of decline are there as well, I know, I spent six seasons conducting research in the area. And yes, even researchers, who are educated supposedly, cause damage, some should stay out of the water, period. It would take a huge education campaign, and Im sure would result in only limited results; some people just don't want to be bothered, education could start with a bit of ego deflation, "Look at me, I'm a diver!" It is sad, but ignorance and lack of knowledge are pervasive, especially when it comes to the protection and conservation
of natural systems, just look around! Good Luck!
Rudy S Bonn
Marine Educator/Biologist
Miami, Florida
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Arrecife Alacranes Park manager needs documentation for
proposed regulation re: divers distance from reef (Dennis Hubbard)
2. Re: Diver distance from Reef (Alex Brylske)
3. Re: Diver distance from Reef (Julian @ Reef Check)
4. Re: Diver distance from Reef (Bill Allison)
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Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 09:59:54 -0400
From: Dennis Hubbard <dennis.hubbard at oberlin.edu>
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Arrecife Alacranes Park manager needs
documentation for proposed regulation re: divers distance from reef
To: Chloe Hunt <hunt.chloe at gmail.com>
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This has been a long-debated item and until we figure out a way to make it
more profitable for the industry to minimize and secure all the crap they
sell to "gotta have that" divers minimum distances aren't going to work - I
give it the same chance as getting the average US diver understand what a
meter is.
It strikes me that these is some low-hanging "fruit" that we ignore and
that dive guides could start with. Every time I go on a dive boat, I look
around at the plethora of gauges, cameras and other widgets and gizmos
hanging off divers who maintain little (i.e., no) awareness of them once
they are in the water (including some of my fellow researchers). The camera
bounces off the reef; the 10-pound console package replete with unused
compass, unmonitored depth gauge (that's what a computer is for, right?),
safety sausage, diver recall device and countless other crap I can't
identify drags across the reef - not to mention that octopus with a 40-ft
hose (OK perhaps and exaggeration, but how many of you have seen the loop
snag gorgonians, sponges, other divers?). And then, the diver sees that
great fish shot and loses all sense of the world around them as they thrash
the reef getting their camera untangled from all those costly gadgets they
never use. I once watched an environmental monitor (I believe the late Bob
Dill coined the apt term "biostitute") videoing a cable mitigation
job...... dragging all these items behind and rather effectively using her
fins to thrash the life out of the biota she had just filmed.
My point? If the dive industry was more interested in the reef than in
selling little used and poorly understood gadgetry, we'd be better off. At
a minimum, a dive guide could spend a little time helping the divers secure
are these projectiles before they start the dive.
Dennis
On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 11:13 PM, Chloe Hunt <hunt.chloe at gmail.com> wrote:
> We have been looking at managing diver behaviour, and the diving industry
> as a whole, for almost 10 years in SE Asia through the Green Fins approach.
> While I have heard dive guides and leaders include maintaining maximum
> distances from the reef (usually 1 to 2 m) very nicely in pre-dive
> environmental briefings, it will always only be a guide for the visiting
> divers and something which is very difficult to actually enforce or police
> as a rule. We have found that promoting best practices through
> environmental training, instead of strict rules, is a much more effective
> way of managing a sustainable and environmentally receptive diving
> industry.
>
> The Green Fins approach is based on threats posed to reefs by divers and
> the diving industry, and shares knowledge and guidance on how to mitigate
> those threats through best practice. The approach and results from a case
> study are described in a paper, which can be found at
> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0964569113000719. Green
> Fins has been tested in SE Asia and, as part of work with UNEP and The
> Reef-World Foundation, it will be piloted in other regions, potentially
> the Caribbean as well as WIO.
>
> Please do let me know if you would like any further information, or find
> more at www.greenfins.net.
>
> Best of luck with your endeavours,
>
> Chloe
> Programmes Manager
> The Reef-World Foundation
>
>
>
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> > 1. Arrecife Alacranes Park manager needs documentation for
> > proposed regulation re: divers distance from reef (Sustento
> > t?cnico para regla de buceo en PN Arrecife Alacranes (Mexico):
> > distancia del buzo al arrecife) (Georgina Bustamante)
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:00:49 -0400
> > From: "Georgina Bustamante" <gbustamante09 at gmail.com>
> > Subject: [Coral-List] Arrecife Alacranes Park manager needs
> > documentation for proposed regulation re: divers distance from
> reef
> > (Sustento t?cnico para regla de buceo en PN Arrecife Alacranes
> > (Mexico): distancia del buzo al arrecife)
> > To: "CaMPAM Forum" <CAMPAM-L at LISTSERV.GCFI.ORG>, "'coral list'"
> > <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>, "'Gulf and Caribbean
> > Fisheries
> > Institute Network'" <GCFINET at LISTSERV.GCFI.ORG>, "'Bruce
> > Potter at
> > IRF'" <bpotter at irf.org>,
> > <wcpa_north_america_caribbean at yahoogroups.com>
> > Message-ID: <09ec01ce8971$aa681260$ff383720$@com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> > (My translation to English below)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > El colega Ren? Kant?n, director del Parque Nacional Arrecifes Alacranes,
> > necesita ayuda para apoyar una nueva regulaci?n en el parque: los
> > buceadores
> > deben mantener una distancia m?nima de 1.5m del arrecife.
> >
> > Favor de leer su mensaje abajo y comunicarse con el si puede ayudarlo.
> >
> >
> >
> > GB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Rene Humberto Kantun Palma [mailto:rkantun at conanp.gob.mx]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:53 PM
> > To: gbustamante09 at gmail.com
> > Cc: renekantun at hotmail.com
> > Subject: RV: Sustento t?cnico para buceo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Estimada Georgina:
> >
> >
> >
> > Una disculpa por distraerte de tus m?ltiples ocupaciones.
> >
> >
> >
> > Te comento que estamos en el proceso de modificaci?n del Programa de
> Manejo
> > del Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes, en el estado de Yucat?n, M?xico;
> en
> > dicho documento estamos proponiendo incorporar como regla administrativa,
> > respetar, en las pr?cticas de buceo, una distancia m?nima de 1.5 metros
> de
> > las formaciones coralinas, con objeto de evitar da?os a las mismas. Hemos
> > hecho una investigaci?n bibliogr?fica, pero ninguna de las publicaciones
> > habla fehacientemente que para realizar sustentablemente el buceo se debe
> > respetar distancia alguna, solo mencionan buenas pr?cticas y controlar la
> > flotabilidad, incluso algunas AMP de M?xico contemplan o proponen
> > distancias, pero no se?alan metodolog?a alguna para determinarlo, peor
> a?n,
> > proponen distancias diferentes (Sian Ka?an 2.5, Cozumel 1.5, etc.).
> >
> >
> >
> > Con base en lo anterior, atentamente te solicito tu apoyo a fin de que a
> > trav?s de tu red de contactos puedas hacer la respectiva consulta, de lo
> > cual estoy seguro que algo saldr? en alg?n lugar del mundo, lo que
> > permitir?
> > fortalecer la propuesta de imponer una distancia m?nima al realizar el
> > buceo
> > en el PNAA.
> >
> >
> >
> > Por el amable tiempo de haber revisado el presente correo, te agradezco
> > infinito y aprovecho para enviarte saludos, con la esperanza que nos
> > saludemos pronto, quiz?s en M?rida??
> >
> > Espero tus comentarios.
> >
> > Cordialmente
> >
> > RK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Lic. Ren? H. Kant?n Palma
> >
> > Comisi?n Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas
> >
> > Director
> >
> > Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes
> >
> > Reserva de la Biosfera R?a Celest?n
> >
> > Calle 18 No, 120 X Av. P?rez Ponce, Col. Itzimn?
> >
> > M?rida, Yucat?n, C.P. 97100
> >
> > Tel. 999 938 07 09 / 999 938 07 08
> >
> > Ext. 101 y 106
> >
> > renekantun at hotmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > La informaci?n que se env?a al destinatario mediante esta
> > transmisi?n es propiedad exclusiva de la Comisi?n
> > Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas. Si usted no es el
> > destinatario de esta informaci?n o si la ha recibido por
> > error, se le comunica que la copia, distribuci?n,
> > modificaci?n, retransmisi?n, revelaci?n o uso en cualquier
> > forma, est? estrictamente prohibida.
> >
> > ------------------------
> >
> > CaMPAM members,
> >
> > Our colleague Rene Kantun, director of Arrecifes de Alacranes NP, need
> your
> > help to Support a proposed regulation: for divers to keep a 1.5m distance
> > from the reef.
> >
> > Read my English translation of his message below, and contact him if you
> > can
> > help.
> >
> >
> >
> > GB
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear Georgina:
> >
> > An apology for distracting from your busy schedule.
> >
> > We are in the process of modifying the Management Program of Alacranes
> > Reefs National Park, Yucatan, Mexico. We are proposing to incorporate a
> new
> > regulation on diving practices re: a minimum distance of 1.5 m to coral
> > formations in order to avoid damage to them. We conducted a literature
> > search, but none of the publications justifies convincingly the distance
> to
> > be respected, just mention good practice and control buoyancy, even some
> of
> > Mexico AMP (2.5m for Sian Ka'an, 1.5m for Cozumel, etc..).
> >
> > Based on the above, I request your support for this query thru your
> network
> > and contacts. I hope something will come out somewhere in the world,
> which
> > will strengthen the proposal to impose minimum distance to make diving in
> > the NPAA.
> >
> > Thank you ??. hoping to greet us soon, maybe in Merida??
> > I await your comments.
> > Cordially
> > RK
> >
> > Lic. Ren? H. Kant?n Palma
> >
> > Comisi?n Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas
> >
> > Director
> >
> > Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes
> >
> > Reserva de la Biosfera R?a Celest?n
> >
> > Calle 18 No, 120 X Av. P?rez Ponce, Col. Itzimn?
> >
> > M?rida, Yucat?n, C.P. 97100
> >
> > Tel. 999 938 07 09 / 999 938 07 08
> >
> > Ext. 101 y 106
> >
> > renekantun at hotmail.com
> >
> > ??
> >
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:20:03 -0400
From: Alex Brylske <brylske at me.com>
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Diver distance from Reef
To: Steve Mussman <sealab at earthlink.net>
Cc: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov" <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>,
Gregor Hodgson <gregorh at reefcheck.org>, Rene Kantun
<renekantun at hotmail.com>
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The very idea that some minimum distance can be set (let alone enforced) to keep divers away from reefs is absurd, and reflects a complete lack of understanding of how the resort scuba industry/community operates. Steve's suggestion that the effort should be placed on training more professional divemasters is really the only way to achieve the objective of reducing impact. (Forget changing diver training standards; it will never happen.) However, several programs to accomplish such a goal have been attempted (an area in which I have consideration experience?including my own doctoral dissertation) but have fallen flat on their face, in part, due to lack-luster support from the diving industry. So, Steve is also spot on regarding how one can't depend on "training agencies" to develop?or more than tacitly support?such efforts. In my view, government resource managers have to get involve with the force of law if this issue is to be addressed effectively. The
diving industry is, a
fter all, an industry, and like any other will always defer to short-term economic considerations. I'd love to see something like this happen, but I've been involved with the diving industry at virtually every level since 1971, and I'm certainly not going to hold my breath. Hopefully, I'm just an old crumudgeonly skeptic and some Gen-Xer will prove me wrong, so good luck.
But I will somewhat disagree with Steve's point about the industry's position on climate change. He's right that there is no position, but that's because some of the most important opinion-makers in the industry are climate change deniers! Now you perhaps understand why I'm so skeptical. However, understand that my comments are limited to North American diving industry. (Unfortunately, the one that still drives international efforts.) I have little insight into other regions.
Alex Brylske
On Jul 29, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Steve Mussman <sealab at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> To all,
> This thread exposes the practical difficulties inherent in
> developing protocols designed to protect coral reefs from damage imposed by
> divers. I'm not sure that a mandated minimum distance is the best approach
> although a suggested range might be recommended.
> There are several factors to consider in addition to the obvious
> problems of enforcement that would be central to any strict minimum distance
> regulation. Even a two meter limit presents hazards to coral reefs if divers
> are incompetent while a skilled diver can hover innocuously at a much closer
> range. Photography, lionfish hunting, night diving, caverns and
> swim-throughs all present additional challenges to strict distance limits.
> Based on my experiences, requiring well trained dive masters who
> can educate, guide and oversee a limited number of divers is the best
> solution. Dive masters in the Yucatan and other regions are generally highly
> motivated, conscientious and truly care about protecting their reefs.
> Empower them and let them use their own discretion based on an evaluation of
> the skill level of individual divers.
> We certainly can't leave it to the scuba industry. If protecting and
> conserving coral reefs were a genuine objective dive training agencies would
> already be implementing higher standards that require basic education
> regarding coral reef ecology and advanced buoyancy control before allowing
> divers into MPAs. But in the end these forces are more focused on economic
> growth and can't be relied upon to effectively address critical
> environmental issues. One only has to examine the industry's public position
> on climate change as it applies to coral reefs to divulge this reality. Oh
> wait a minute, they don't have a clearly articulated position on climate
> change. . . It must not be a threat after all.
> Regards,
> Steve Mussman
> Sea Lab Diving
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gregor Hodgson
>> Sent: Jul 27, 2013 1:49 PM
>> To: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"
>> Subject: [Coral-List] Diver distance from Reef
>>
>> Parks might want to consider a 2 m (or 6 feet) distance from a practical
>> standpoint. Most divers are about 2 m long (tall) when in the water with
>> fins but with legs bent, oriented at an angle and not completely stretched
>> out. Hence any distance less than that risks bumping into the reef
>> inadvertently when turning. It might be easier to remember and for divers
> to
>> conceptualize a body length of 2 m than 1.5.
>>
>> That being said, a lot of photographers enjoy macro-photography and a lot
> of
>> divers are photographers. By zoning the entire park as 2 m distance only,
>> you are excluding macro-photographers. Also lot of dive guides like showing
>> small creatures such as anemone shrimp to customers.
>>
>> Perhaps there should be a zone where closer observation/photography is
>> permitted or when a guide is present who can enforce/remind?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gregor Hodgson, PhD
>> Executive Director
>> Reef Check Foundation
>> PO Box 1057 (mail)
>> 17575 Pacific Coast Highway (overnight)
>> Pacific Palisades, CA 90272 USA
>> T: 1 310-230-2371 or 2360
>> Gregorh at reefcheck..org
>> Skype: gregorh001
>>
>>
>> From:
>> Reply-To: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"
>> Date: Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:00 AM
>> To: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"
>> Subject: Coral-List Digest, Vol 59, Issue 23
>>
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>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. Arrecife Alacranes Park manager needs documentation for
>> proposed regulation re: divers distance from reef (Sustento
>> t?cnico para regla de buceo en PN Arrecife Alacranes (Mexico):
>> distancia del buzo al arrecife) (Georgina Bustamante)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:00:49 -0400
>> From: "Georgina Bustamante"
>> Subject: [Coral-List] Arrecife Alacranes Park manager needs
>> documentation for proposed regulation re: divers distance from reef
>> (Sustento t?cnico para regla de buceo en PN Arrecife Alacranes
>> (Mexico): distancia del buzo al arrecife)
>> To: "CaMPAM Forum" , "'coral list'"
>> , "'Gulf and Caribbean Fisheries
>> Institute Network'" , "'Bruce Potter at
>> IRF'" ,
>>
>> Message-ID: <09ec01ce8971$aa681260$ff383720$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> (My translation to English below)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El colega Ren? Kant?n, director del Parque Nacional Arrecifes Alacranes,
>> necesita ayuda para apoyar una nueva regulaci?n en el parque: los
> buceadores
>> deben mantener una distancia m?nima de 1.5m del arrecife.
>>
>> Favor de leer su mensaje abajo y comunicarse con el si puede ayudarlo.
>>
>>
>>
>> GB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Rene Humberto Kantun Palma [mailto:rkantun at conanp.gob.mx]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:53 PM
>> To: gbustamante09 at gmail.com
>> Cc: renekantun at hotmail.com
>> Subject: RV: Sustento t?cnico para buceo
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Estimada Georgina:
>>
>>
>>
>> Una disculpa por distraerte de tus m?ltiples ocupaciones.
>>
>>
>>
>> Te comento que estamos en el proceso de modificaci?n del Programa de Manejo
>> del Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes, en el estado de Yucat?n, M?xico; en
>> dicho documento estamos proponiendo incorporar como regla administrativa,
>> respetar, en las pr?cticas de buceo, una distancia m?nima de 1.5 metros de
>> las formaciones coralinas, con objeto de evitar da?os a las mismas. Hemos
>> hecho una investigaci?n bibliogr?fica, pero ninguna de las publicaciones
>> habla fehacientemente que para realizar sustentablemente el buceo se debe
>> respetar distancia alguna, solo mencionan buenas pr?cticas y controlar la
>> flotabilidad, incluso algunas AMP de M?xico contemplan o proponen
>> distancias, pero no se?alan metodolog?a alguna para determinarlo, peor a?n,
>> proponen distancias diferentes (Sian Ka?an 2.5, Cozumel 1.5, etc.).
>>
>>
>>
>> Con base en lo anterior, atentamente te solicito tu apoyo a fin de que a
>> trav?s de tu red de contactos puedas hacer la respectiva consulta, de lo
>> cual estoy seguro que algo saldr? en alg?n lugar del mundo, lo que
> permitir?
>> fortalecer la propuesta de imponer una distancia m?nima al realizar el
> buceo
>> en el PNAA.
>>
>>
>>
>> Por el amable tiempo de haber revisado el presente correo, te agradezco
>> infinito y aprovecho para enviarte saludos, con la esperanza que nos
>> saludemos pronto, quiz?s en M?rida??
>>
>> Espero tus comentarios.
>>
>> Cordialmente
>>
>> RK
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Lic. Ren? H. Kant?n Palma
>>
>> Comisi?n Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas
>>
>> Director
>>
>> Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes
>>
>> Reserva de la Biosfera R?a Celest?n
>>
>> Calle 18 No, 120 X Av.. P?rez Ponce, Col. Itzimn?
>>
>> M?rida, Yucat?n, C.P. 97100
>>
>> Tel. 999 938 07 09 / 999 938 07 08
>>
>> Ext. 101 y 106
>>
>> renekantun at hotmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> La informaci?n que se env?a al destinatario mediante esta
>> transmisi?n es propiedad exclusiva de la Comisi?n
>> Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas. Si usted no es el
>> destinatario de esta informaci?n o si la ha recibido por
>> error, se le comunica que la copia, distribuci?n,
>> modificaci?n, retransmisi?n, revelaci?n o uso en cualquier
>> forma, est? estrictamente prohibida.
>>
>> ------------------------
>>
>> CaMPAM members,
>>
>> Our colleague Rene Kantun, director of Arrecifes de Alacranes NP, need your
>> help to Support a proposed regulation: for divers to keep a 1.5m distance
>> from the reef.
>>
>> Read my English translation of his message below, and contact him if you
> can
>> help.
>>
>>
>>
>> GB
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Georgina:
>>
>> An apology for distracting from your busy schedule.
>>
>> We are in the process of modifying the Management Program of Alacranes
>> Reefs National Park, Yucatan, Mexico. We are proposing to incorporate a new
>> regulation on diving practices re: a minimum distance of 1.5 m to coral
>> formations in order to avoid damage to them. We conducted a literature
>> search, but none of the publications justifies convincingly the distance to
>> be respected, just mention good practice and control buoyancy, even some of
>> Mexico AMP (2.5m for Sian Ka'an, 1.5m for Cozumel, etc..).
>>
>> Based on the above, I request your support for this query thru your network
>> and contacts. I hope something will come out somewhere in the world, which
>> will strengthen the proposal to impose minimum distance to make diving in
>> the NPAA.
>>
>> Thank you ??. hoping to greet us soon, maybe in Merida??
>> I await your comments.
>> Cordially
>> RK
>>
>> Lic. Ren? H. Kant?n Palma
>>
>> Comisi?n Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas
>>
>> Director
>>
>> Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes
>>
>> Reserva de la Biosfera R?a Celest?n
>>
>> Calle 18 No, 120 X Av. P?rez Ponce, Col. Itzimn?
>>
>> M?rida, Yucat?n, C.P. 97100
>>
>> Tel. 999 938 07 09 / 999 938 07 08
>>
>> Ext. 101 y 106
>>
>> renekantun at hotmail.com
>>
>> ??
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:42:31 +0800
From: "Julian @ Reef Check" <julian at reefcheck.org.my>
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Diver distance from Reef
To: "'Steve Mussman'" <sealab at earthlink.net>, "'Gregor Hodgson'"
<gregorh at reefcheck.org>, "'Georgina Bustamate'"
<gbustamante09 at gmail.com>, "'Rene Kantun'" <renekantun at hotmail.com>
Cc: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Steve
I must support your email. I've just spent the weekend on Tioman island, off
Malaysia's East coast, and if anyone doubts that the dive industry (and the
wider tourism industry) is NOT doing enough about reef conservation, that
would be a good place to start your research. Little in the way of diver
supervision limits, except those imposed by the few conscientious dive
operators; little in the way of involvement in conservation projects, except
those implemented by the few conscientious dive operators - most won't even
consider getting involved in dives to remove nets from the reef! And tourist
numbers just keep growing...
PADI, NAUI and all the others have no interest whatsoever in reef
conservation as you say - witness the thin attempts to greenwash the
industry with programmes like project aware. That's mainly a marketing tool
for dive operators, who fill their dive centre with lots of customers to
help clean reefs....in fact so many customers they end up doing more damage
than the conservation value of the dives. Been there, seen it with my own
eyes...and I can hear the response from PADI ringing in my ears already...
I have tried framing the reef conservation message in terms businessmen
might understand. No point telling dive operators how wonderful and diverse
reefs are - that's generally why they became divers in the first place.
Better to encourage them to see it as a productive business asset. Perhaps
an approach along the lines of "if Ford stopped maintaining its production
line, it wouldn't produce any more cars; if Malaysia Airlines stopped
maintaining its aircraft they would start falling out of the skies...and if
you don't start maintaining your coral reefs, which are your most important
business asset, then you too will go out of business." Too hard, cold and
commercial? Well, that's what dive operators are - businessmen. Perhaps we
should try talking to them like businessmen.
Regards
Julian Hyde
General Manager
Reef Check Malaysia Bhd
03 2161 5948
www.reefcheck.org.my
Follow us on Facebook at www.facebook.com/rcmalaysia
HEARD A FISH BOMB? TEXT US AT 012 647 1294 WITH DATE, TIME AND LOCATION!
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environment that the ability of the planet's ecosystems to sustain future
generations can no longer be taken for granted."
-----Original Message-----
From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
[mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Steve Mussman
Sent: Tuesday, 30 July, 2013 8:31 AM
To: Gregor Hodgson; Georgina Bustamate; Rene Kantun
Cc: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Diver distance from Reef
To all,
This thread exposes the practical difficulties inherent in
developing protocols designed to protect coral reefs from damage imposed
by
divers. I'm not sure that a mandated minimum distance is the best
approach
although a suggested range might be recommended.
There are several factors to consider in addition to the obvious
problems of enforcement that would be central to any strict minimum
distance
regulation. Even a two meter limit presents hazards to coral reefs if
divers
are incompetent while a skilled diver can hover innocuously at a much
closer
range. Photography, lionfish hunting, night diving, caverns and
swim-throughs all present additional challenges to strict distance
limits.
Based on my experiences, requiring well trained dive masters who
can educate, guide and oversee a limited number of divers is the best
solution. Dive masters in the Yucatan and other regions are generally
highly
motivated, conscientious and truly care about protecting their reefs.
Empower them and let them use their own discretion based on an evaluation
of
the skill level of individual divers.
We certainly can't leave it to the scuba industry. If protecting and
conserving coral reefs were a genuine objective dive training agencies
would
already be implementing higher standards that require basic education
regarding coral reef ecology and advanced buoyancy control before
allowing
divers into MPAs. But in the end these forces are more focused on
economic
growth and can't be relied upon to effectively address critical
environmental issues. One only has to examine the industry's public
position
on climate change as it applies to coral reefs to divulge this reality.
Oh
wait a minute, they don't have a clearly articulated position on climate
change. . . It must not be a threat after all.
Regards,
Steve Mussman
Sea Lab Diving
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gregor Hodgson
>Sent: Jul 27, 2013 1:49 PM
>To: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"
>Subject: [Coral-List] Diver distance from Reef
>
>Parks might want to consider a 2 m (or 6 feet) distance from a practical
>standpoint. Most divers are about 2 m long (tall) when in the water with
>fins but with legs bent, oriented at an angle and not completely
stretched
>out. Hence any distance less than that risks bumping into the reef
>inadvertently when turning. It might be easier to remember and for
divers
to
>conceptualize a body length of 2 m than 1.5.
>
>That being said, a lot of photographers enjoy macro-photography and a
lot
of
>divers are photographers. By zoning the entire park as 2 m distance
only,
>you are excluding macro-photographers. Also lot of dive guides like
showing
>small creatures such as anemone shrimp to customers.
>
>Perhaps there should be a zone where closer observation/photography is
>permitted or when a guide is present who can enforce/remind?
>
>Regards,
>
>Gregor Hodgson, PhD
>Executive Director
>Reef Check Foundation
>PO Box 1057 (mail)
>17575 Pacific Coast Highway (overnight)
>Pacific Palisades, CA 90272 USA
>T: 1 310-230-2371 or 2360
>Gregorh at reefcheck.org
>Skype: gregorh001
>
>
>From:
>Reply-To: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"
>Date: Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:00 AM
>To: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"
>Subject: Coral-List Digest, Vol 59, Issue 23
>
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>
>Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Arrecife Alacranes Park manager needs documentation for
> proposed regulation re: divers distance from reef (Sustento
> t?cnico para regla de buceo en PN Arrecife Alacranes (Mexico):
> distancia del buzo al arrecife) (Georgina Bustamante)
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:00:49 -0400
>From: "Georgina Bustamante"
>Subject: [Coral-List] Arrecife Alacranes Park manager needs
>documentation for proposed regulation re: divers distance from reef
>(Sustento t?cnico para regla de buceo en PN Arrecife Alacranes
>(Mexico): distancia del buzo al arrecife)
>To: "CaMPAM Forum" , "'coral list'"
>, "'Gulf and Caribbean Fisheries
>Institute Network'" , "'Bruce Potter at
>IRF'" ,
>
>Message-ID: <09ec01ce8971$aa681260$ff383720$@com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>(My translation to English below)
>
>
>
>
>
>El colega Ren? Kant?n, director del Parque Nacional Arrecifes Alacranes,
>necesita ayuda para apoyar una nueva regulaci?n en el parque: los
buceadores
>deben mantener una distancia m?nima de 1.5m del arrecife.
>
>Favor de leer su mensaje abajo y comunicarse con el si puede ayudarlo.
>
>
>
>GB
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Rene Humberto Kantun Palma [mailto:rkantun at conanp.gob.mx]
>Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:53 PM
>To: gbustamante09 at gmail.com
>Cc: renekantun at hotmail.com
>Subject: RV: Sustento t?cnico para buceo
>
>
>
>
>
>Estimada Georgina:
>
>
>
>Una disculpa por distraerte de tus m?ltiples ocupaciones.
>
>
>
>Te comento que estamos en el proceso de modificaci?n del Programa de
Manejo
>del Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes, en el estado de Yucat?n, M?xico;
en
>dicho documento estamos proponiendo incorporar como regla
administrativa,
>respetar, en las pr?cticas de buceo, una distancia m?nima de 1.5 metros
de
>las formaciones coralinas, con objeto de evitar da?os a las mismas.
Hemos
>hecho una investigaci?n bibliogr?fica, pero ninguna de las publicaciones
>habla fehacientemente que para realizar sustentablemente el buceo se
debe
>respetar distancia alguna, solo mencionan buenas pr?cticas y controlar
la
>flotabilidad, incluso algunas AMP de M?xico contemplan o proponen
>distancias, pero no se?alan metodolog?a alguna para determinarlo, peor
a?n,
>proponen distancias diferentes (Sian Ka?an 2.5, Cozumel 1.5, etc.).
>
>
>
>Con base en lo anterior, atentamente te solicito tu apoyo a fin de que a
>trav?s de tu red de contactos puedas hacer la respectiva consulta, de lo
>cual estoy seguro que algo saldr? en alg?n lugar del mundo, lo que
permitir?
>fortalecer la propuesta de imponer una distancia m?nima al realizar el
buceo
>en el PNAA.
>
>
>
>Por el amable tiempo de haber revisado el presente correo, te agradezco
>infinito y aprovecho para enviarte saludos, con la esperanza que nos
>saludemos pronto, quiz?s en M?rida??
>
>Espero tus comentarios.
>
>Cordialmente
>
>RK
>
>
>
>
>
>Lic. Ren? H. Kant?n Palma
>
>Comisi?n Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas
>
>Director
>
>Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes
>
>Reserva de la Biosfera R?a Celest?n
>
>Calle 18 No, 120 X Av. P?rez Ponce, Col. Itzimn?
>
>M?rida, Yucat?n, C.P. 97100
>
>Tel. 999 938 07 09 / 999 938 07 08
>
>Ext. 101 y 106
>
>renekantun at hotmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>La informaci?n que se env?a al destinatario mediante esta
>transmisi?n es propiedad exclusiva de la Comisi?n
>Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas. Si usted no es el
>destinatario de esta informaci?n o si la ha recibido por
>error, se le comunica que la copia, distribuci?n,
>modificaci?n, retransmisi?n, revelaci?n o uso en cualquier
>forma, est? estrictamente prohibida.
>
>------------------------
>
>CaMPAM members,
>
>Our colleague Rene Kantun, director of Arrecifes de Alacranes NP, need
your
>help to Support a proposed regulation: for divers to keep a 1.5m
distance
>from the reef.
>
>Read my English translation of his message below, and contact him if you
can
>help.
>
>
>
>GB
>
>
>
>Dear Georgina:
>
>An apology for distracting from your busy schedule.
>
>We are in the process of modifying the Management Program of Alacranes
>Reefs National Park, Yucatan, Mexico. We are proposing to incorporate a
new
>regulation on diving practices re: a minimum distance of 1.5 m to coral
>formations in order to avoid damage to them. We conducted a literature
>search, but none of the publications justifies convincingly the distance
to
>be respected, just mention good practice and control buoyancy, even some
of
>Mexico AMP (2.5m for Sian Ka'an, 1.5m for Cozumel, etc...).
>
>Based on the above, I request your support for this query thru your
network
>and contacts. I hope something will come out somewhere in the world,
which
>will strengthen the proposal to impose minimum distance to make diving
in
>the NPAA.
>
>Thank you ??. hoping to greet us soon, maybe in Merida??
>I await your comments.
>Cordially
>RK
>
>Lic. Ren? H. Kant?n Palma
>
>Comisi?n Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas
>
>Director
>
>Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes
>
>Reserva de la Biosfera R?a Celest?n
>
>Calle 18 No, 120 X Av. P?rez Ponce, Col. Itzimn?
>
>M?rida, Yucat?n, C.P. 97100
>
>Tel. 999 938 07 09 / 999 938 07 08
>
>Ext. 101 y 106
>
>renekantun at hotmail.com
>
> ??
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:12:04 -0400
From: Bill Allison <allison.billiam at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Diver distance from Reef
To: "Julian @ Reef Check" <julian at reefcheck.org.my>
Cc: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov, Gregor Hodgson
<gregorh at reefcheck.org>, Rene Kantun <renekantun at hotmail.com>
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Fair points about the dive industry Steve and Julian. They "lead" from
behind, following the money.
I've noticed that the amount of coral breakage on Maldivian resort house
reefs depends a lot on the leadership, guidance, rules and in-water
supervision provided by the dive base team. Some are very good, some, not
so much. Dive sites used by any and all and especially by live-aboards
suffer the most, presumably because they are the more acute cases of the
common property problem.
On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Julian @ Reef Check <
julian at reefcheck.org.my> wrote:
> Steve
> I must support your email. I've just spent the weekend on Tioman island,
> off
> Malaysia's East coast, and if anyone doubts that the dive industry (and the
> wider tourism industry) is NOT doing enough about reef conservation, that
> would be a good place to start your research. Little in the way of diver
> supervision limits, except those imposed by the few conscientious dive
> operators; little in the way of involvement in conservation projects,
> except
> those implemented by the few conscientious dive operators - most won't even
> consider getting involved in dives to remove nets from the reef! And
> tourist
> numbers just keep growing...
>
> PADI, NAUI and all the others have no interest whatsoever in reef
> conservation as you say - witness the thin attempts to greenwash the
> industry with programmes like project aware. That's mainly a marketing tool
> for dive operators, who fill their dive centre with lots of customers to
> help clean reefs...in fact so many customers they end up doing more damage
> than the conservation value of the dives. Been there, seen it with my own
> eyes...and I can hear the response from PADI ringing in my ears already...
>
> I have tried framing the reef conservation message in terms businessmen
> might understand. No point telling dive operators how wonderful and diverse
> reefs are - that's generally why they became divers in the first place.
> Better to encourage them to see it as a productive business asset. Perhaps
> an approach along the lines of "if Ford stopped maintaining its production
> line, it wouldn't produce any more cars; if Malaysia Airlines stopped
> maintaining its aircraft they would start falling out of the skies...and if
> you don't start maintaining your coral reefs, which are your most important
> business asset, then you too will go out of business." Too hard, cold and
> commercial? Well, that's what dive operators are - businessmen. Perhaps we
> should try talking to them like businessmen.
>
> Regards
>
> Julian Hyde
> General Manager
> Reef Check Malaysia Bhd
> 03 2161 5948
> www.reefcheck.org.my
> Follow us on Facebook at www.facebook.com/rcmalaysia
>
> HEARD A FISH BOMB? TEXT US AT 012 647 1294 WITH DATE, TIME AND LOCATION!
>
> "The bottom line of the Millenium Assessment findings is that human actions
> are depleting Earth's natural capital, putting such strain on the
> environment that the ability of the planet's ecosystems to sustain future
> generations can no longer be taken for granted."
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> [mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Steve Mussman
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 July, 2013 8:31 AM
> To: Gregor Hodgson; Georgina Bustamate; Rene Kantun
> Cc: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Diver distance from Reef
>
>
> To all,
> This thread exposes the practical difficulties inherent in
> developing protocols designed to protect coral reefs from damage imposed
> by
> divers. I'm not sure that a mandated minimum distance is the best
> approach
> although a suggested range might be recommended.
> There are several factors to consider in addition to the obvious
> problems of enforcement that would be central to any strict minimum
> distance
> regulation. Even a two meter limit presents hazards to coral reefs if
> divers
> are incompetent while a skilled diver can hover innocuously at a much
> closer
> range. Photography, lionfish hunting, night diving, caverns and
> swim-throughs all present additional challenges to strict distance
> limits.
> Based on my experiences, requiring well trained dive masters who
> can educate, guide and oversee a limited number of divers is the best
> solution. Dive masters in the Yucatan and other regions are generally
> highly
> motivated, conscientious and truly care about protecting their reefs.
> Empower them and let them use their own discretion based on an
> evaluation
> of
> the skill level of individual divers.
> We certainly can't leave it to the scuba industry. If protecting and
> conserving coral reefs were a genuine objective dive training agencies
> would
> already be implementing higher standards that require basic education
> regarding coral reef ecology and advanced buoyancy control before
> allowing
> divers into MPAs. But in the end these forces are more focused on
> economic
> growth and can't be relied upon to effectively address critical
> environmental issues. One only has to examine the industry's public
> position
> on climate change as it applies to coral reefs to divulge this reality.
> Oh
> wait a minute, they don't have a clearly articulated position on climate
> change. . . It must not be a threat after all.
> Regards,
> Steve Mussman
> Sea Lab Diving
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Gregor Hodgson
> >Sent: Jul 27, 2013 1:49 PM
> >To: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"
> >Subject: [Coral-List] Diver distance from Reef
> >
> >Parks might want to consider a 2 m (or 6 feet) distance from a
> practical
> >standpoint. Most divers are about 2 m long (tall) when in the water
> with
> >fins but with legs bent, oriented at an angle and not completely
> stretched
> >out. Hence any distance less than that risks bumping into the reef
> >inadvertently when turning. It might be easier to remember and for
> divers
> to
> >conceptualize a body length of 2 m than 1.5.
> >
> >That being said, a lot of photographers enjoy macro-photography and a
> lot
> of
> >divers are photographers. By zoning the entire park as 2 m distance
> only,
> >you are excluding macro-photographers. Also lot of dive guides like
> showing
> >small creatures such as anemone shrimp to customers.
> >
> >Perhaps there should be a zone where closer observation/photography is
> >permitted or when a guide is present who can enforce/remind?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Gregor Hodgson, PhD
> >Executive Director
> >Reef Check Foundation
> >PO Box 1057 (mail)
> >17575 Pacific Coast Highway (overnight)
> >Pacific Palisades, CA 90272 USA
> >T: 1 310-230-2371 or 2360
> >Gregorh at reefcheck.org
> >Skype: gregorh001
> >
> >
> >From:
> >Reply-To: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"
> >Date: Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:00 AM
> >To: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"
> >Subject: Coral-List Digest, Vol 59, Issue 23
> >
> >Send Coral-List mailing list submissions to
> >coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
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> >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
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> >
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> >please only include quoted text from prior posts that is necessary to
> >make your point; avoid re-sending the entire Digest back to the list.
> >
> >
> >Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Arrecife Alacranes Park manager needs documentation for
> > proposed regulation re: divers distance from reef (Sustento
> > t?cnico para regla de buceo en PN Arrecife Alacranes (Mexico):
> > distancia del buzo al arrecife) (Georgina Bustamante)
> >
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 1
> >Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 16:00:49 -0400
> >From: "Georgina Bustamante"
> >Subject: [Coral-List] Arrecife Alacranes Park manager needs
> >documentation for proposed regulation re: divers distance from reef
> >(Sustento t?cnico para regla de buceo en PN Arrecife Alacranes
> >(Mexico): distancia del buzo al arrecife)
> >To: "CaMPAM Forum" , "'coral list'"
> >, "'Gulf and Caribbean Fisheries
> >Institute Network'" , "'Bruce Potter at
> >IRF'" ,
> >
> >Message-ID: <09ec01ce8971$aa681260$ff383720$@com>
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >
> >(My translation to English below)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >El colega Ren? Kant?n, director del Parque Nacional Arrecifes
> Alacranes,
> >necesita ayuda para apoyar una nueva regulaci?n en el parque: los
> buceadores
> >deben mantener una distancia m?nima de 1.5m del arrecife.
> >
> >Favor de leer su mensaje abajo y comunicarse con el si puede ayudarlo.
> >
> >
> >
> >GB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >From: Rene Humberto Kantun Palma [mailto:rkantun at conanp.gob.mx]
> >Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2013 2:53 PM
> >To: gbustamante09 at gmail.com
> >Cc: renekantun at hotmail.com
> >Subject: RV: Sustento t?cnico para buceo
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Estimada Georgina:
> >
> >
> >
> >Una disculpa por distraerte de tus m?ltiples ocupaciones.
> >
> >
> >
> >Te comento que estamos en el proceso de modificaci?n del Programa de
> Manejo
> >del Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes, en el estado de Yucat?n,
> M?xico;
> en
> >dicho documento estamos proponiendo incorporar como regla
> administrativa,
> >respetar, en las pr?cticas de buceo, una distancia m?nima de 1.5 metros
> de
> >las formaciones coralinas, con objeto de evitar da?os a las mismas..
> Hemos
> >hecho una investigaci?n bibliogr?fica, pero ninguna de las
> publicaciones
> >habla fehacientemente que para realizar sustentablemente el buceo se
> debe
> >respetar distancia alguna, solo mencionan buenas pr?cticas y controlar
> la
> >flotabilidad, incluso algunas AMP de M?xico contemplan o proponen
> >distancias, pero no se?alan metodolog?a alguna para determinarlo, peor
> a?n,
> >proponen distancias diferentes (Sian Ka?an 2.5, Cozumel 1.5, etc.).
> >
> >
> >
> >Con base en lo anterior, atentamente te solicito tu apoyo a fin de que
> a
> >trav?s de tu red de contactos puedas hacer la respectiva consulta, de
> lo
> >cual estoy seguro que algo saldr? en alg?n lugar del mundo, lo que
> permitir?
> >fortalecer la propuesta de imponer una distancia m?nima al realizar el
> buceo
> >en el PNAA.
> >
> >
> >
> >Por el amable tiempo de haber revisado el presente correo, te agradezco
> >infinito y aprovecho para enviarte saludos, con la esperanza que nos
> >saludemos pronto, quiz?s en M?rida??
> >
> >Espero tus comentarios.
> >
> >Cordialmente
> >
> >RK
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Lic. Ren? H. Kant?n Palma
> >
> >Comisi?n Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas
> >
> >Director
> >
> >Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes
> >
> >Reserva de la Biosfera R?a Celest?n
> >
> >Calle 18 No, 120 X Av. P?rez Ponce, Col. Itzimn?
> >
> >M?rida, Yucat?n, C.P. 97100
> >
> >Tel. 999 938 07 09 / 999 938 07 08
> >
> >Ext. 101 y 106
> >
> >renekantun at hotmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >La informaci?n que se env?a al destinatario mediante esta
> >transmisi?n es propiedad exclusiva de la Comisi?n
> >Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas. Si usted no es el
> >destinatario de esta informaci?n o si la ha recibido por
> >error, se le comunica que la copia, distribuci?n,
> >modificaci?n, retransmisi?n, revelaci?n o uso en cualquier
> >forma, est? estrictamente prohibida.
> >
> >------------------------
> >
> >CaMPAM members,
> >
> >Our colleague Rene Kantun, director of Arrecifes de Alacranes NP, need
> your
> >help to Support a proposed regulation: for divers to keep a 1.5m
> distance
> >from the reef.
> >
> >Read my English translation of his message below, and contact him if
> you
> can
> >help.
> >
> >
> >
> >GB
> >
> >
> >
> >Dear Georgina:
> >
> >An apology for distracting from your busy schedule.
> >
> >We are in the process of modifying the Management Program of Alacranes
> >Reefs National Park, Yucatan, Mexico. We are proposing to incorporate a
> new
> >regulation on diving practices re: a minimum distance of 1.5 m to coral
> >formations in order to avoid damage to them. We conducted a literature
> >search, but none of the publications justifies convincingly the
> distance
> to
> >be respected, just mention good practice and control buoyancy, even
> some
> of
> >Mexico AMP (2.5m for Sian Ka'an, 1.5m for Cozumel, etc..).
> >
> >Based on the above, I request your support for this query thru your
> network
> >and contacts. I hope something will come out somewhere in the world,
> which
> >will strengthen the proposal to impose minimum distance to make diving
> in
> >the NPAA.
> >
> >Thank you ??. hoping to greet us soon, maybe in Merida??
> >I await your comments.
> >Cordially
> >RK
> >
> >Lic. Ren? H. Kant?n Palma
> >
> >Comisi?n Nacional de ?reas Naturales Protegidas
> >
> >Director
> >
> >Parque Nacional Arrecife Alacranes
> >
> >Reserva de la Biosfera R?a Celest?n
> >
> >Calle 18 No, 120 X Av. P?rez Ponce, Col. Itzimn?
> >
> >M?rida, Yucat?n, C.P. 97100
> >
> >Tel. 999 938 07 09 / 999 938 07 08
> >
> >Ext. 101 y 106
> >
> >renekantun at hotmail.com
> >
> > ??
> >
> >
> >
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