[Coral-List] A World without Coral Reefs?
dennis.hubbard at oberlin.edu
Tue Sep 3 11:30:56 EDT 2013
Wow, what a great poster! Do you have this in a Powerpoint format or
something else where I could show the slides to a class? The resolution
would not hold up from the jpg.
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Phillip Dustan <phil.dustan at gmail.com>wrote:
> Dear Dennis,
> Your post reminded me of a poster I assembled in 2004 based on Sir
> Nicholas Nuttalls campaign to save the groupers in the Bahamas. He used
> "Imagine the Bahamas without grouper" which I turned into Imagine the Keys
> without corals?
> Sad to say it's just about happened................
> Here's the Dropbox url
> All the best
> *"When one tugs at a single thing in nature *
> *he finds it attached to the rest of the world."*
> * John Muir*
> Phillip Dustan PhD
> Department of Biology
> College of Charleston, SC
> Charleston SC 29424
> 843-953-8086 office
> 843-224-3321 (mobile)
> On Sun, Sep 1, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Dennis Hubbard <
> dennis.hubbard at oberlin.edu> wrote:
>> Steve raises an important point that I've been wrestling with for the past
>> five years or so every time I convene my *Biology, Geology and Politics of
>> Coral Reefs* course; at least one student has asked me this very question
>> every time I teach it.
>> If my understanding of the consensus is correct, even in the most
>> optimistic of scenarios (a 50% reduction of 1990 emissions levels by early
>> to mid century), we'll be seeing CO2 levels at least in the mid-400s and
>> then will probably not see numbers below that in the lifetime of our
>> youngest contributor.
>> I wouldn't advocate for just "facing reality" as this makes it too easy
>> anyone to use this as an excuse to do nothing - and many of the proposed
>> measures will probably have at least collateral environmental benefits
>> corals aren't among the recipients. So, I would ask a modified version of
>> Steve's question. If we do feel that reefs as we know (knew?) them are not
>> likely in the future, then 1) how do we either triage what to save (I
>> against this as it's the same hubris that got us to this point), or 2) how
>> do we determine a strategy that focuses on the things that are most likely
>> to be key ecological elements in the future (note, I use the word
>> "elements" in favor of "species" on purpose).
>> Just to make a wild projection.... we won't reach consensus.
>> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Steve Mussman <sealab at earthlink.net>
>> > Dear Listers,
>> > I hate to put this out there, but I'm beginning to wonder if I've
>> > kidding myself.
>> > I've been collaborating with others in an effort to urge the diving
>> > industry
>> > to openly address the issue of local and global threats to coral
>> > including an honest assessment of the pending impacts of climate
>> > change. In
>> > doing so I've found it necessary to tread carefully in that
>> > resistance remains intact throughout the industry at just the mention
>> > of the
>> > term climate change.
>> > But that's not really my focus at this point. What I want to know is
>> > this:
>> > Are efforts to forestall or mitigate the impacts of climate change on
>> > coral
>> > reef ecosystems already past the point being practical? Are efforts
>> > last year's consensus statement from the ICRS just based on
>> > institutional inertia of conservationists who value hope over truth
>> > scientists who can't see the reefs for the corals? Am I (are we)
>> > spreading
>> > false beliefs and misdirecting efforts by persisting that coral reefs
>> > have a
>> > future rather than urging that we begin to address the greater
>> > from
>> > their inevitable collapse?
>> > I'm honestly beginning to wonder.
>> > Regards,
>> > Steve
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