[Coral-List] Subject: climate Change "deniers"

[Jim Hendee]

On 6/26/15 8:37 AM, Risk, Michael wrote:
> Bill: This list is for discussion of matters relating to coral reefs, not for the airing of political beliefs. 

    Took the words right out of my mouth...

> There are about 8,000 (Jim???) 

    ~8,700 as of today.

> people on this list, and you have just wasted their time.

    Well, it's all interesting, but it does tend to get tangential at
    times.  In fact, on some of these lately my finger has been hovering
    over the Delete Key while scanning for the word "coral" in the message.

    Y'all, please try to keep it relevant to coral ecosystems when
    possible, or the next thing you know we'll be dragged before the
    world on Fox News (as Gene's recent video link sort of portends),
    and you all know what a great source of unbiased and accurate news
    THAT is!

        Jim

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> FYI: If you look at the refereed literature, such as Nuccitelli et al 2012 (Physic Letters) Cowtan and Way, 2013 (Q J Royal Met Soc), you will see that the myth of the "climate hiatus" was shot down a while ago. When discussing "global" warming one must discuss the globe, and it turns out much of the energy has been stored in the oceans.
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> There is, however, great relevance to reefs in the continued heating of the oceans. This will lead to thermal stratification, development of anoxia... there is no good news.
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> All the best-Mike.
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> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Subject:  climate Change "deniers"
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> Time will tell if Gene is right. Right now it doesn't look good for the AGWers because it's not warming as predicted in their bible, the IPCC.
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>      On Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:33 PM, Bill Raymond <billraymond10 at yahoo...com> wrote:
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>  The answer will come as either continual warming or cooling. Let's don't kill the messenger who might disagree with you.
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>      On Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:00 PM, Steve Mussman <sealab at earthlink.net> wrote:
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>  I agree wholeheartedly with Pedro. Although it may seem like a waste of time, ignoring the musings of iconoclasts has created a situation whereby we now have no choice but to defend solid science against a prolific barrage of misinformation. Unfortunately the restraint that is ingrained and often displayed by so many in the scientific community is often taken as submission.. Call them out and shut them down. The Pope has thrown down the gauntlet... If he can do it so can the stately scientific community.
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> Steve
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> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pedro H. Rodríguez <phernanrod at yahoo.com>
>> Sent: Jun 24, 2015 4:40 PM
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>> Subject: [Coral-List] Subject:  climate Change "deniers"
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>> David,
>> Thank you very much for your message. I think it reflects what is on the minds of many in the list. Many of us have just opted to skip over the messages of aspiring iconoclasts who will say anything to get attention, but calling their game actually does a service.
>> Regards,Pedro
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>> Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 21:05:55 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: David Evans <davidjevans1818 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [Coral-List] climate Change "deniers"
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>> All -?I honestly don't understand this. Not the climate science, that I understand, or at least we'll enough. What I don't understand is that this childish discussion is still going on. I think there are plenty of worthy and important discussions about climate change that certainly should and do take place. But this one? Really?
>> I think mostly of Gene in this and I mean this with respect, but the cute old curmudgeon thing only goes so far. Too many times has some link or posted news just not panned out - was never really well based to begin with. Why do we have to go through that part of it every time??
>> We get it....
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