[Coral-List] Best Non-Toxic Marine Epoxy?
adam porter
ap3489 at hotmail.com
Wed Mar 11 12:52:51 EDT 2015
I'm not 100% sure if it will help but I use Entropy Resins for my surfboard manufacture.Their casting epoxy is 18% biobased and with very low VOC's https://entropyresins.com/product/super-sap-ccr-clear-casting-epoxy-resin/They set themselves up as an eco epoxy company so might be worth a look?
Adam Porter PhD StudentUniversity of Exeter BiosciencesGeoffery Pope Lab 201Stocker RoadExeterEX4 4QD
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> 1. Re: Trading reef destruction for progress (Michael Risk)
> 2. Re: Trading reef destruction for progress (Steve Palumbi)
> 3. Best Non-Toxic Marine Epoxy? (Hannah Aichelman)
> 4. Re: Best Non-Toxic Marine Epoxy? (Dennis Hubbard)
> 5. Re: How to "green" the dive? (Philip Baker)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 10:26:10 -0400
> From: Michael Risk <riskmj at mcmaster.ca>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Trading reef destruction for progress
> To: Phil Dustan <dustanp at cofc.edu>
> Cc: Coral List <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
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> Hi Phil.
>
> I read your posting with interest, and not a little schadenfreude. I understand your anger. It prompted me to relate an example from another part of the world, and to direct readers of this list to a perhaps-unrelated news item:http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/03/10/u-s-republican-senators-write-to-iranian-leaders-in-attempt-to-undermine-nuclear-talks/
>
> A few years ago, I was asked to mediate in an environmental dispute in the Persian Gulf. The government of Iran had negotiated a multi billion dollar loan from the EU to develop offshore resources in the PARS gas field. The gas would come ashore at Assaluyeh.
>
> The terms of the loan required protection of the environment, and the EU performed an initial EIA which included a map of the marine resources in the region. A site visit by a German consulting firm a few years down the road discovered that several pipelines had been constructed over existing coral reefs. There appeared to be extensive ongoing damage to the corals.
>
> The proverbial hit the fan, and funds were frozen.
>
> The Iranian point of view was quite reasonable: the initial EIA had simply not detected the presence of large reef tracts close to shore (pause a moment to absorb that), and the pipelines were constructed based on that document. The EU point of view was equally reasonable-damage was being done.
>
> I visited the site in August, trying to make sense of it all. I might mention that, during that visit, the air temperature was 45? C and the water was 35.
>
> It was immediately apparent that the damage was overwhelmingly due to sediment stress, coming largely from dredging activities. I tend not to trust SPM values obtained from optical density techniques, because of calibration issues imposed by different sediments: I also think there is enormous value in being able to retain a sample of the specific sediment that is inducing the stress.
>
> Therefore, I proposed a system by which a guy in a boat goes out at first light every day, takes a water sample, and immediately filters that for direct SPM determination. If those values exceed 10 mg/L, all dredging activity stops until the water clears again. All sides of the dispute bought into this resolution, and as far as I know that guy still goes out every day.
>
> I had opportunity sometime later to chat with the Iranian Minister of the Environment. I asked him why his government had spent so much money to save a small number of corals. (At the time, we were discussing a project to relocate Acropora away from a harbour development.) He said to me, "the Koran tells us that these are all God's creatures, and it is our responsibility to take care of them.?
>
> Mike
>
> On Mar 8, 2015, at 10:52 AM, Phil Dustan <dustanp at cofc.edu> wrote:
>
> > This in Sunday's NY Times concerning the dredging fiasco off Miami.
> > http://nyti.ms/18rofPD
> >
> > ?It really is not a surprise seeing how the economy and "progress" always
> > trump conservation?. What is a surprise is that it finally got some
> > national press. The premier government agencies overseeing this economic
> > development project (NOAA and the Army Corps) can't chalk this one up to
> > global warming or climate change. Anyone who has a basic understanding of
> > reefs and their ecology could have predicted this would happen......
> >
> > What is so sad to me is the way our government agencies get away with
> > duping the nation into the allowing economic progress to overwhelm our
> > natural infrastructure over and over and over.........
> > Pete Seeger asked "where have all the flowers gone" and the same question
> > can be asked about reefs..............and forests, and marshlands, and
> > someday humans?
> > In a time when people become outraged about email servers and sexual
> > preferences maybe, just maybe there could be a little more outrage and
> > action to cease and desist the destruction of our home Biosphere.
> >
> > Warm wishes to the people who allowed these permitting decisions,
> > Maybe their wisdom won't shine on Fort Lauderdale quite as brightly?
> > And maybe, hopefully, just maybe, the community of coral reef
> > science community will begin to speak out with more unity, conviction, and
> > political pressure.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > --
> > Phillip Dustan
> > Department of Biology
> > College of Charleston
> > Charleston SC 20401
> > Charleston SC
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> > 843-224-3321 (m)
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> > *"When one tugs at a single thing in nature *
> > *he finds it attached to the rest of the world."*
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 07:27:00 -0700
> From: Steve Palumbi <spalumbi at stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Trading reef destruction for progress
> To: Phil Dustan <dustanp at cofc.edu>
> Cc: Coral List <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
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> The most telling aspect of the article to me is that there is no indication that the Army Corps ever slowed or halted dredging when their coral protection efforts failed. It appears that once a plan was in place to dredge, it was followed in spite of severe damage. And the Corps spokesperson said over and over that all regulations were followed. I suppose someone was supposed to sue them in the middle of the dredging to fix the procedures.
>
> Steve
>
>
> **********************************
> Stephen R. Palumbi
> Harold A Miller Director, Hopkins Marine Station
> Jane and Marshall Steel Professor of Biology
> Stanford University
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 8, 2015, at 7:52 AM, Phil Dustan <dustanp at cofc.edu> wrote:
> >
> > This in Sunday's NY Times concerning the dredging fiasco off Miami.
> > http://nyti.ms/18rofPD
> >
> > ?It really is not a surprise seeing how the economy and "progress" always
> > trump conservation?. What is a surprise is that it finally got some
> > national press. The premier government agencies overseeing this economic
> > development project (NOAA and the Army Corps) can't chalk this one up to
> > global warming or climate change. Anyone who has a basic understanding of
> > reefs and their ecology could have predicted this would happen......
> >
> > What is so sad to me is the way our government agencies get away with
> > duping the nation into the allowing economic progress to overwhelm our
> > natural infrastructure over and over and over.........
> > Pete Seeger asked "where have all the flowers gone" and the same question
> > can be asked about reefs..............and forests, and marshlands, and
> > someday humans?
> > In a time when people become outraged about email servers and sexual
> > preferences maybe, just maybe there could be a little more outrage and
> > action to cease and desist the destruction of our home Biosphere.
> >
> > Warm wishes to the people who allowed these permitting decisions,
> > Maybe their wisdom won't shine on Fort Lauderdale quite as brightly?
> > And maybe, hopefully, just maybe, the community of coral reef
> > science community will begin to speak out with more unity, conviction, and
> > political pressure.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > --
> > Phillip Dustan
> > Department of Biology
> > College of Charleston
> > Charleston SC 20401
> > Charleston SC
> > 843 953 8086 (voice)
> > 843-224-3321 (m)
> >
> > *"When one tugs at a single thing in nature *
> > *he finds it attached to the rest of the world."*
> > * John Muir*
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 12:22:27 -0400
> From: Hannah Aichelman <hannahaichelman at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Coral-List] Best Non-Toxic Marine Epoxy?
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> Hi Coral List,
>
> We are trying to find the best non-toxic marine epoxy that will be used to
> seal core plugs from recently drilled coral colonies (Siderastrea siderea
> and Pseudodiploria strigosa). Any ideas for the best options? We are trying
> not to use Z-SPAR because of potential toxicity to the coral.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Hannah
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 16:07:17 -0400
> From: Dennis Hubbard <dennis.hubbard at oberlin.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Best Non-Toxic Marine Epoxy?
> To: Hannah Aichelman <hannahaichelman at gmail.com>
> Cc: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov" <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
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> In the old days, we used Portland type II marine cement. If you mix it with
> coral sand, you have something that is a lot closer to the coral's make-up
> than any epoxy will ever be. In a couple of years, the coral grows over the
> plug and all evidence is gone. If you add moulding plater to it, it makes a
> nice and firm glob that you can work into the hole. You want to make sure
> there are no ways for bioeroders to get into the hole from another
> direction or they will eat the colony from the inside rapidly.
>
> I remember Gene Shinn telling me that when they were working in protected
> areas they had to drill another plug from the side of the coral, glue that
> into the "real" hole and then plug the one down lower and out of site. The
> problem was that the corals on the lower sides apparently had either a
> different density or different group of zoox and the color didn't match.
> I'm sure that Gene can fill in the gaps and fix the errors in my story.
>
> Best,
>
> Dennis
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Hannah Aichelman <
> hannahaichelman at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Coral List,
> >
> > We are trying to find the best non-toxic marine epoxy that will be used to
> > seal core plugs from recently drilled coral colonies (Siderastrea siderea
> > and Pseudodiploria strigosa). Any ideas for the best options? We are trying
> > not to use Z-SPAR because of potential toxicity to the coral.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Hannah
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>
> --
> Dennis Hubbard
> Chair, Dept of Geology-Oberlin College Oberlin OH 44074
> (440) 775-8346
>
> * "When you get on the wrong train.... every stop is the wrong stop"*
> Benjamin Stein: "*Ludes, A Ballad of the Drug and the Dream*"
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2015 12:23:56 +0100
> From: Philip Baker <chomz2 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] How to "green" the dive?
> To: Alice Grainger <alicetgrainger at gmail.com>
> Cc: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov" <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
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> Greetings Alice,
>
> First I would like to thank you for providing a positive information platform to bring ecological concerns and ideas to divers who wish to keep their impact on the environment to a minimum.
>
> To speak from the limited experience I have in diving in Asia Pacific, I found that most important is finding a dive shop/resort that is rooted in ecological preservation. Individual divers have limited impact on their own, but responsible companies can influence larger populations, both through education and diving only in appropriate areas.
>
> While living in the Philippines studying shark behavior, I had the opportunity to meet many dive organizations, not all of which were Eco-friendly. One dive shop, Sierra Madre, located on Alona Beach, really exceeded in providing divers with education on proper diving etiquette. They are located on the island of Panglao, just off of the island of Bohol. You can find them in Facebook, if you would like to contact them.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Philip Baker
>
> > On Mar 4, 2015, at 5:04 AM, Alice Grainger <alicetgrainger at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Coral Listers,
> > I am the editor of *Scuba Diver AUSTRALASIA* magazine, based out of
> > Singapore.
> > I'd like to put together an "Eco Diving" issue for Asia Pacific and thought
> > I would go to the best source of responsible diving knowledge - you!
> > I want to be sure I am giving our readers the best information possible
> > about creating eco conscious dive holidays.
> > Some questions for the experts:
> >
> > - What do you think the most important considerations for eco-conscious
> > divers should be? Transport, equipment, destination, food and accommodation?
> > - What do you think is the most important thing that divers should know
> > or do to help protect coral reefs?
> > - Are there any resorts or dive centres in Asia Pacific that you know
> > about that exemplify eco diving practices?
> > - Is there anything else you think it is important to share with Asia's
> > divers about eco conscious diving and dive holidays?
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to learning from the best!
> > Best
> > Alice
> >
> > Editor | *Scuba Diver OCEAN PLANET* | *Scuba Diver AUSTRALASIA*
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