[Coral-List] Two news stories about coral reefs
brennandmcdonald at gmail.com
Fri Aug 19 21:15:56 EDT 2016
I’d like to counter what you say about the impact of the dive industry. I agree with you that it sometimes does damage the reef, but the benefits of diving outweigh the negatives. First, diving plays a major role in the education of the public on the oceans. By seeing their beauty firsthand, they learn to appreciate it, and in turn want to help protect it. Second, as I mentioned in an earlier email, it provides a source of income to people who otherwise would have to turn to environmentally destructive practices to make a living. Would you rather have people shark-fin hunting and killing them by the millions or just damaging a little bit of coral here in there while diving. In a perfect world, the reefs would stay pristine, but compromises have to be made, and diving provides an educational window into the underwater world.
> On Aug 19, 2016, at 10:49 AM, Phil Dustan <dustanp at cofc.edu> wrote:
> Dear Bob,
> The elephant in the room is really 7 billion people on the
> planet......and no one wants to talk about it as though it would be
> upsetting some moral taboo. The rest of it - coal, methane, carbon, sea
> level etc is a consequence not real drivers.....The Club of Rome had it
> spot on in the 1970's........
> NOAA is too politically greedy, large NGO's have become corporate, the
> diving industry is making too much money pushing into new territories after
> their customers trash the last place, Wreck diving is replacing reef diving
> in the Florida Keys 'cause the reefs are dead........Oh, and scientists
> keep asking for more money for "research".
> Ecology is really a local sport with local actors - just all over the
> planet. We don't need more research, more monitoring, or more
> technology...We know the basic principles now and how to put them in place.
> We need people to change their behaviors, reproduce with longer generation
> times, eat a different diet, and to distribute wealth more equitably.
> But all that is too much to ask of the human race so we have situation
> like the GBR, Florida Keys, Bahamas, Jamaica, Philippines, etc.......all
> over the planet. Our reproductive success is really the driver behind it
> And the destruction is accelerating as in Bali this past year:
> All the best,
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:23 PM, Robert Bourke <rbourke at oceanit.com> wrote:
>> Doug & All;
>> The discussion concerning saving Australia's Great Barrier Reef
>> ignores the elephant in the room.
>> At the recent coral reef conference we all listened to numerous
>> papers placing much of the blame for the decline of the Great Barrier Reef
>> upon two key factors 1) sediment turbidity from agriculture and mining
>> operations, and 2) global warming.
>> Nobody mentioned the fact that last year (2015) Australia mined and shipped
>> 150,000,000,000 kg
>> of coal, primarily to China. China imports about
>> 190,000.000.000 kg per year - primarily from Indonesia and
>> Why does the government allow this to happen? Because coal exports make up
>> about 15% of Australia's GDP (~1 Billion $) and there is no comparable
>> measure of the value of the GBR against which to balance the economic and
>> social welfare from these two sources.
>> The solution to this is NOT to use questionable economic surveys to
>> inflate the economic value of reefs. NOAA has tried this approach and the
>> results are not pretty. Rather we should urge our governments to take a
>> broader view of the economic AND social value of all activities so that a
>> better balance can be achieved.
>> Methods to conduct a true ecosystem valuation were developed by ecologists
>> cumulating (my opinion) with the work of de Groot in 1992 (Functions of
>> Nature: Evaluation of Nature in Environmental Planning, Management, and
>> Decision-making). Unfortunately (for us biologists) this methodology has
>> been conscripted by the economists. The method was further developed and
>> used to create the Millennium Ecosystem Assessment (2005) which calculated
>> the "value" of all the worlds ecosystems. Fortunately many large
>> international organization (mostly outside the US) have adopted methods
>> that incorporate the quantification of all ecosystem functions and services
>> as part of their large project planning and funding activities. Anyone
>> interested in the approach to saving reefs should look into the work of the
>> World Resources Institute, The Economics of Ecosystems and Biodiversity, or
>> the United Nations Environmental Program. Many good universities now have
>> programs that concentrate on this
>> NOAA, USFWS, EPA and USACE would all benefit from adopting a similar
>> strategy based upon analyses of ecosystem functions and services.
>> Perhaps to save the reefs, one must become an economist........ just a bit.
>> Bob Bourke
>> Environmental Scientist
>> Oceanit, Hawaii
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov [mailto:coral-list-bounces@
>> coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Douglas Fenner
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 10:40 PM
>> To: coral list <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
>> Subject: [Coral-List] Two news stories about coral reefs
>> Five things we can do right now to save the Great Barrier Reef
>> The coral die-off crisis is a climate crime, and Exxon fired the gun.
>> Cheers, Doug
>> Douglas Fenner
>> Contractor for NOAA NMFS, and consultant "have regulator, will travel"
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>> Join the International Society for Reef Studies. Membership includes a
>> subscription to the journal Coral Reefs, and there are discounts for pdf
>> subscriptions and developing countries. Coral Reefs is the only journal
>> that is ALL coral reef articles, and it has amazingly LOW prices compared
>> to other journals. Check it out! www.fit.edu/isrs/
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>> "Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not to their own
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