[Coral-List] Trust peer-reviewed articles rather than the press

Jean-Pierre Gattuso gattuso2 at obs-vlfr.fr
Mon Mar 7 11:45:35 EST 2016


Hi Mark,

I agree. I was just correcting a post which mentioned that the articles 
of this special issue were not all open access. They are. Replies from 
scientists were published in The Times newspaper, in an Australian 
on-line journal, on Tweeter and on a blog. A nice summary is here:
http://tinyurl.com/zowv3xy

Cheers,
Jean-Pierre


On 7 Mar 2016, at 14:40, Mark Tupper wrote:

> Jean-Pierre et al,
>
> The general public is not going to find and read a journal like ICES 
> Journal of Marine Science. Even Richard Dunne’s assertion that the 
> general public gets its scientific information from the national and 
> international press is overly optimistic these days. I can’t speak 
> for Europe, but in North America and in the Philippines, the average 
> citizen gets their scientific information from social media, i.e. 
> Facebook memes, Twitter tweets, and the blogosphere.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>
> Dr. Mark Tupper, Director
> Coastal Resources Association
> Saint Joseph Street, Barangay Nonoc
> Surigao City, Philippines 8400
> +63-905-280-0792
> mtupper at coastal-resources.org
>
>
> On Mar 5, 2016, at 1:46 AM, Jean-Pierre Gattuso <gattuso2 at obs-vlfr.fr> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> That is not true. The entire issue is open access. You can even get 
>> all
>> articles in a single pdf file:
>> http://icesjms.oxfordjournals.org/content/current#Completeissuepdf73-3
>>
>> Note that I have no connection with this special issue.
>>
>> Jean-Pierre Gattuso
>>
>>> Please do keep in mind, that the vast majority of papers in this 
>>> issue
>>> are not Open Access. In fact, of the 45 papers in this special 
>>> issue,
>>> only 9 are available for free. At $40 per paper, it would cost 
>>> $1,440
>>> for just one person to read this special issue.
>>>
>>> The idea, therefore, that the “general public” should only trust
>>> peer-reviewed publications is a non-starter. If the general public
>>> won’t even pay for newspapers anymore, do you really expect them 
>>> to
>>> pay $40 for a single peer-reviewed paper?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Nick
>>>
>>> Nick Wehner
>>> Project Manager, OpenChannels
>>> Marine Affairs Research and Education (MARE)
>>> http://openchannels.org | http://marinedebris.info |
>>> http://marineaffairs.org
>>> nwehner at marineaffairs.org
>>
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