[Coral-List] Fwd: Has the death of the Great Barrier Reef been greatly, exaggerated??

[Vassil Zlatarski]

Doug,

Shouldn't be better to use "coral reef buildup" or otherwise, but no
"geological coral reef", which brings misleading denotation?

Cheers,

Vassil

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 2:33 AM, Douglas Fenner <
douglasfennertassi at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm just trying to distinguish between the geological formation, that is
> the calcium carbonate buildup of coral reefs, and the biological/ecological
> community of living organisms that we call a coral reef ecosystem, and
> point out they are two different things, which aren't distinguished when we
> say "coral reef."  I'm suggesting we distinguish them in our writings and
> speech.
> Cheers,  Doug
>
> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Vassil Zlatarski <vzlatarski at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Doug,
>>
>> I find myself still wondering what is the geological meaning of your
>> "geological coral reef" and why such worded term has to be used for all
>> coral reefs (living, dead and fossil).  Actually you referrer to frame and
>> carcass as geomorphological characteristic.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Vassil
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Douglas Fenner <douglasfennertassi at gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 9:02 PM
>> Subject: Fwd: [Coral-List] Has the death of the Great Barrier Reef been
>> greatly, exaggerated??
>> To: Vassil Zlatarski <vzlatarski at gmail.com>, coral list <
>> coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
>>
>>
>> Vassil,
>>     Good point.  I was referring to a (more or less) solid carbonate
>> structure, built by coral reef organisms, independent of whether it has
>> living corals on it or not, or whether it was under water or not, or
>> whether it was old enough to be called a fossil reef or not.  I was trying
>> to make the point that the carbonate structure and the living ecosystem on
>> it are two very different (though interrelated) things, and we (myself
>> included) often use terms like "coral reef" which don't distinguish which
>> we are talking about, and I think we would do well to make that clear
>> which
>> one we are talking about each time we refer to them.  In some places one
>> exists without the other, the processes involved in producing or
>> destroying
>> them are very different, and the time scales involved are very different,
>> much shorter for the ecosystem than for the geological structure.
>>  Cheers, Doug
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Vassil Zlatarski <vzlatarski at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Doug,
>> >
>> > Frequently used terms are: "reef", "coral reef/ecosystem", "living coral
>> > reef/ecosystem", "dead coral reef/ecosystem", "fossil coral
>> > reef/ecosystem".  What is the geological meaning of "geological coral
>> > reefs" used in your posting.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Vassil
>> >
>> > Vassil Zlatarski
>> > D.Sc. (Biology), Ph.D. (Geology)
>> >
>> >
>> >
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