[Coral-List] Global risk of deadly heat (Vassil

Douglas Fenner douglasfennertassi at gmail.com
Sat Jul 8 21:32:48 EDT 2017


Gene,
     I seem to recall that when the last sunspot minimum seemed a bit late
in arriving, you were announcing on coral-list that global cooling was
about to start.  How's that worked out?  Then the sunspot minimum arrived
and the world kept on warming faster and faster.  Shall I hold my breath
for your latest prediction to come true?

     Your source is a political website.  The source Ruben cited is a
peer-reviewed science journal article.

  Half a degree C, that really shows that the sun dominates earth's climate
as the title says, that's much larger than the 5-6°C increase that will
happen if we continue "business as usual" emissions.   Also, I quote from
the second link provided by Ruben: "In summary, global mean temperatures in
the year 2100 would most likely be diminished by about 0.1°C." below the 5-6
°C increase it would otherwise be if we take no action ("business as
usual")".

     Cheers,  Doug

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 9:13 AM, Ruben van Hooidonk - NOAA Affiliate <
ruben.van.hooidonk at noaa.gov> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Under emission scenario RCP8.5 average global temperature increase
> would be in the 5-6ºC range.
> (https://sos.noaa.gov/Datasets/dataset.php?id=438) The temperature
> offset of a new Maunder-type solar activity minimum would be in the
> range of 0.1-0.3ºC
> (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2010GL042710/full). The
> effect of solar activity is small, especially compared to the enormous
> effects of CO2. We need to reduce our carbon emissions! In fact if we
> don't, the projected stress will cause twice-per-decade severe
> bleaching at 25 of the 29 of the UNESCO World Heritage sites with
> coral reefs (86%) by 2040.  http://whc.unesco.org/en/news/1676
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Eugene Shinn <eugeneshinn at mail.usf.edu>
> wrote:
> > This posting Is about the suns effect on global climate which of course
> > relates to ocean temperature which affects coral growth. "CERN’s CLOUD
> > experiment findings are now being used to model predictions for the next
> > 100 years—and the model shows a solar sunspot minimum will soon lower
> > earth’s temperatures by half a degree C."  This finding contrasts
> > strongly with the prediction of deadly heat due to CO2.. Gene
> > https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisavery/2017/04/04/new-e
> urostudies-confirm-sun-dominates-earths-climate-n2308564
> > <https://townhall.com/columnists/dennisavery/2017/04/04/new-
> eurostudies-confirm-sun-dominates-earths-climate-n2308564>
> >
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