[Coral-List] Fw: Marine Aquarium Trade

Wed Dec 13 19:00:24 UTC 2023

That paper is behind a pay/subscriber wall, any other way to get a copy? I
am interested to read what is considered "illegal", since this implies that
the corals cannot be imported, which is false. Having worked in the public
aquarium field for over 25 years and having worked with coral systems for
over 50 years ... I have dealt with many USFWS seizures of coral. but
before I comment any further on the original post, I would like to read the
paper.

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On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 9:37 AM Wesley Franks via Coral-List <
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:

> This is a very good topic to discuss.
> I personally have been in HOBBY since I was 11 or 12 years old. 40 years
> ago coral were collected on a much more wider spectrum. Maybe about 20-30
> years ago the coral collection became more selective, customers wanted more
> colorful, more unusual colors, a demand that calls for a more rarity in
> stock. Collectors eventually started focusing on color as they racked up
> more value. Due to the rarity or unusual colors mainly from the
> zooxanthellae, many were given a “name” such as once called “purple hornet”
> and over time this single clone end up being grown into hundreds by
> hundreds of colonies among aquarists so clearly this clone is well
> preserved in the hobby say it goes extinct in the wild.
> Biggest negative impact today the hobby has on these “conserved corals”
> would be their locations of harvest are unknown…….. we can’t simply
> reintroduce cloned corals from the hobby back into the wild without knowing
> where they are native (or genetically native to).
> Wesley Franks
>
> > El dic 13, 2023, a la(s) 9:30 a.m., Judith Weis via Coral-List <
> coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> escribió:
> >
> > Corals are under existential threat from climate change. Additional
> threats from (legal or illegal) collecting are relatively small, but
> infuriating considering it's for someone's HOBBY.  Not their dinner, not
> subsistence income, but their hobby.
> > J
> > ________________________________
> > From: Douglas Fenner <douglasfennertassi at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2023 6:40 PM
> > To: Judith Weis <jweis at newark.rutgers.edu>
> > Cc: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
> > Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Fw: Marine Aquarium Trade
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >  It also strikes me that the article I pointed to says that the value of
> corals in the live aquarium trade provides an incentive for conservation.
> I think they mean that if you profit from the live coral aquarium trade,
> you don't want to lose the resources you make money off of.  However, I
> would argue that there is a greater incentive to exploit the resource.
> This probably fits under the titles "scramble competition" and "the tragedy
> of the commons."  Namely, whoever gets to it first, gets the best pickings,
> and if you are late to the picnic there may not be anything much left to
> eat.  So there is an incentive to exploit the population faster and as much
> as you can.  Garret Hardin wrote a famous paper in Science long ago
> entitled "Tragedy of the Commons."  Exploitations of nature can fit into
> this category, especially fisheries.  In fisheries, it is sometimes called
> "the race for fish."  The collection of wild corals for the aquarium trade
> is an invertebrate fishery.  Corals that are farmed are not a fishery, but
> there are hybrid systems where people are alleged to take corals from the
> wild, grow them larger in captivity, and then ship them to the US or
> Europe, the largest and second-largest buyers of living corals for
> aquaria.  People can grow them completely in nurseries for the trade, but
> it is probably faster, easier, and cheaper to collect them.  There is
> pressure on countries to better regulate coral fisheries and to shift to
> farming corals for the trade.
> >       Coral fisheries are a threat to corals, however, they are a
> relatively small threat compared to the big threats such as climate change,
> land-based pollution, overfishing (of fish) and disease.  It could have
> intense effects if there are small, heavily exploited areas, and on rare,
> slow-growing or reproducing corals that are popular in the trade (such as
> rare fleshy corals).  All threats add to the total threat to corals, but
> some threats add much more threat than others.
> >
> > Hardin, G. 1968. The tragedy of the commons. Science 162: 1243–1248.
> >
> > Cheers, Doug
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 3:53 AM Judith Weis via Coral-List <
> coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov<mailto:coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:47 AM Judith Weis <jweis at newark.rutgers.edu
> <mailto:jweis at newark.rutgers.edu><mailto:jweis at newark.rutgers.edu<mailto:
> jweis at newark.rutgers.edu>>> wrote:
> > Regarding the marine aquarium trade as a "model for sustainability,"
> there is a great deal of illegal coral being imported to the US (and
> probably elsewhere)
> >
> >
> >
> https://url.avanan.click/v2/___https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0964569120302155___.YXAzOmNhbGFjYWRlbXk6YTpnOjhhODgyY2MyODkwYTc5MWE2ZjFmZGI0MTJhNTkwMTEyOjY6ZDQxNjo4NTljN2JlMGZiZTMwMThmZDMyOTM4ODY5ZGRmZDRlM2E5ODNlYmRlYjg1MGI2OGQ3NTQ3YzE1OGRiN2ExNTcxOnA6VA
> > Trends and patterns of imports of legal and illegal live corals into the
> United States<
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> > Coral reefs are the fundamental building blocks of tropical marine
> ecosystems. They are also one of the most endangered ecosystems on the
> planet suffe…
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