(Fwd) RE: New Monuments/Old Attitudes: finis

[Jim Hendee]

I don't mean to squelch free speech, I just want to make sure we keep on
track with the purpose of the list.  If "purpose" includes a possible
solution to the plight of global corals through a continuing dailogue of
this sort, then please do continue.  Let's just remember to "bring it on
home" as occasion permits.

	Cheers,
	Jim

On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, GJ Gast wrote:

> Dear Jim and others,
> 
> 1. Technical point: I haven't received Jim's message directly, but saw it in the 
> response below. It has happened to me before that I see a reply to a 
> message on the list, I hadn't seen. Do more people experience the same 
> problem?  
> 
> 2. Nature conservation is for at least 90% a political issue, while science 
> appears to play only a marginal role. As coral reef conservation and 
> protection are major issues on this list, I fail to see how we can avoid 
> personal political views when communicating on such issues. All the topics 
> Dave mentions below are very much political issues in my point of view. I 
> found the recent exchange very interesting as it gave me information and 
> insight in US environmental issues that hardly come across the Atlantic 
> pond through the standard media. The large number of members of this list 
> ascertains that different opions are contributed.  
> 
> 
> 3. I find Jim's remark on complaints behind the scenes very worrying. 
> Obviously, I do not have the slightest desire to cause Jim problems with my 
> writings. But do we need to moderate our contributions to this list in order to 
> avoid conflicts with the sponsor? What happened to the freedom of speech, 
> that Americans are so rightly proud of?  
> 
> Best wishes, GJ.
> 
> > Jim:
> > 
> > I agree with your comment on bringing this issue to conclusion. I also
> > encourage everyone who is interested in the wider policy and political
> > issues to carry on their (our) discussions one-on-one or in broader fora.  I
> > do believe that the issues raised are, and will continue to be, an important
> > part of the policy and politics of our environment and especially our ocean
> > environment and that the value of making that point requires no more of the
> > Coral-List bandwidth.
> > 
> > As a perpetrator of much (perhaps way too much) of the dialogue, I must
> > admit that the recent postings on the depredations of the reefs in SVG and the
> > proposed developments adjacent to the Yucatan Penninsula as wellas the
> > dialogue concerning impacts of global climate change and reef protection and
> > restoration are better subjects for this list.
> > 
> > Thanks to you Jim for monitoring all of this and to all Coral-List folks who
> > did participate in (or endure) our discussions.
> > 
> > Now, as our TV friends say, lets get back to our sponsors.
> > 
> > Dave Allison
> > Allison Associates
> > Washington, DC
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> > [mailto:owner-coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov]On Behalf Of Jim Hendee
> > Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 2:27 PM
> > To: Coral-List
> > Subject: Re: New Monuments/Old Attitudes
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hey, sports fans, this dialogue seems like it is getting a little afield
> > of coral reef research, although I realize it all started around a posting
> > relating to a new monument for coral reefs in the Virgin Islands, and it HAS
> > been interesting.  I'm starting to get some complaints behind the scenes;
> > however, if everybody thinks this thread is germane, rail on!
> > 
> > Thanks, folks...
> > 
> >  Cheers,
> >  Jim
> >  coral-list admin
> > 
> > 
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