[Coral-List] Re: ICRS Bali proceedings

John Reed jreed at HBOI.edu
Tue May 4 15:44:58 EDT 2004

We received a copy of the Bali Proceedings in March 2003.  So apparently
some have been sent out.
John Reed, HBOI.

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   1. Re: Distructive fishing practices in the Caribbean--long
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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 17:22:55 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Distructive fishing practices in the
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These stories of the overfishing and overall devastation of reef fish 
communities are truly depressing.  Most of these stories in this 
thread seem to deal with larger fish that are caught for human 
consumption.  I'm wondering whether the same stories can be told 
about the smaller fish collected for the aquarium trade?  Are they 
also being overfished?

Certain Caribbean reef fish are popular in the aquarium trade.  For 
example, fish such as royal grammas and cherub angelfish (and 
flameback angelfish) are particularly popular and abundant in the 
aquarium trade.  Queen angelfish are also commonly encountered in the 
aquarium trade, as are yellowheaded jawfish, and occasionally other 
fish such as Caribbean blue tangs and some of the dwarf seabasses 
(e.g. chalk bass).

What sort of impact is the collection of these fish for the aquarium 
trade having on wild fish populations and on the reef in general?

How much of this collection for the aquarium trade is being done in a 
responsible, sustainable manner?  It seems that if done properly, 
income from collection for the aquarium trade could make intact reefs 
more valuable locally, perhaps giving people near the reefs 
motivation for taking steps to preserve and protect them, though I 
fear the reality might be something a bit different (??).

Also as populations of large predaceous reef fish such as groupers 
are overfished, are some of the smaller fish increasing in abundance? 
If so, it seems the effects could be unpredictable and complex, and 
likely not good for the reef (e.g. fewer larger predators -> more 
damselfish.  More damsels + fewer parrotfish and maybe fewer tangs 
and surgeonfish  might then result in lots more algae???)


Bill Capman
Associate Professor
    and Department Chair
Biology Department
Campus Box 117
Augsburg College
2211 Riverside Ave.
Minneapolis, MN 55454  USA
FAX: 612/330-1076
capman at augsburg.edu


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Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 16:33:10 +0200
From: "Abigail1" <Abigail1 at wanadoo.fr>
Subject: [Coral-List] ICRS Bali proceedings - how about a "helpline"?
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Dear Coral-listers

I have also never received a copy of the proceedings of the 9th Bali ICRS.
Neither has my colleague who paid the full regsitration fee but due to the
sudden death of a close family member while en-route was unable to attend.
When I arrived our registration payment transfers had been "lost" by
reception and it took a great deal of effort to even be accepted as having
registered, despite having the payment slip from the bank (in Indonesia)
with me. I had assumed our non-receipt of proceedings was an after-effect of
this lack of proper administrative record-keeping until the recent flood of
letters from other participants.

If anyone does know how these proceedings could be obtained even at this
late date by those of us who really do have every right to them, I would be
most gratefull, as I am sure many others will be. Actually if they were ever
put on CD it wouldn't be too difficult or expensive even if they have "run

How about having a special "helpline" that all people affected could write
to in order to assess the magnitude of this problem and hopefully sort it
all out?

I am also very glad to read that the 10th ICRS comittee has made such a firm
comittment for this years proceedings.

Best regards


Abigail Moore MSc


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