[Coral-List] More on interesting interactions between divers and reefs

Martin Moe martin_moe at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 12 10:12:08 EST 2007

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From: Joe Schittone <Joe.Schittone at noaa.gov>
To: Martin Moe <martin_moe at yahoo.com>; coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
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Guys come on...though I respect what my friends Skip (Martin) &
Dave have said, is this really something we need to be fretting about?
My copy of the CRC Handbook of Chemistry and Physics, in one of the
tables in Section 4 "Properties of the Elements and Inorganic
Compounds," lists lead as insoluble, though it is soluble in
"concentrated acid." But the ocean is everywhere basic (except under
very localized  influence). There are still lead pipes installed in
Roman times in service today. OK, so maybe there can be something in
the marine environment that causes degradation. Can a marine chemist
help us out here?

Meanwhile, given everything else happening with coral, I repeat--Is
this truly something we need to spend time worrying about, or should it
more properly be categorized in the realm of urban myth?


Martin Moe wrote:

  On lead.
I have a friend down here in the Florida Keys who, as a youth, collected in one summer enough lead sinkers lost by fisherman off the Channel 2 bridge to cast a keel weight for a sailboat (don't know the quantitative details) and also in those years he and several friends collected and sold lead sinkers from below these bridge areas in quantities large enough to nicely sustain themselves during the summer months. The sinkers would accumulate in depressions and by rocks and were easy to find and collect. They don't collect these sinkers any more, I don't know if anyone does so these days, I haven't seen such activity, but there are still very many fishermen that use these bridges and also fish from boats in these channels so it may still be a lucrative part time endeavor. It is also not at all unusual to find lead sinkers in coral reef areas (usually attached to a substantial length of monofilament fishing line), And of course there is the poisoning of
 water fowl from the lead shot that accumulates in wet lands. And in marine aquariums I have noticed that lead weights used to anchor artificial plants seem to waste away over time. So lead in the aquatic environment seems to be an issue, maybe biochemically, but certainly in particulate form, especially with attached fishing line in coral reef areas. 


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From: "David.A.Gulko at hawaii.gov" <David.A.Gulko at hawaii.gov>
To: Charles Delbeek <delbeek at waquarium.org>
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Aloha folks,

A number of us out here have raised concerns where large pieces of 
uncoated lead are used as anchor blocks for boat moorings and
equipment because of concerns related to algal over-growth and grazing
herbivores serving as a pathway for movement of lead up through the
chain.  We've recommended coating of large lead anchor structures prior
deployment underwater. 

- Dave

Dave Gulko, Aquatic Biologist IV - Coral Reefs
Division of Aquatic Resources
Hawai?i Department of Land & Natural Resources
1151 Punchbowl Street, room 330
Honolulu, HI  96813

(808) 587-0318 (o), (808) 587-0115 (fax)
david.a.gulko at hawaii.gov

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12/05/07 12:17 PM

John Ware <jware at erols.com>
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Re: [Coral-List] [SPAM] More on interesting interactions between divers
and     reefs

John Ware wrote:
    Dear List,

True there has been quite a number of studies on the interaction of 
divers with reefs.  The one that I have not seen is the effect of
    lead.  (Yes, I know that lead and lead salts are generally considered

However, a year or two ago I was told that the Island of Bonaire
    Park Authority was considering a ban on uncoated lead weights.  All 
divers would be required to use coated weights. 

This might be one of those 'urban myths'.  Perhaps someone from the
    could respond.

Where does it end??


  Actually, I would think looking at the amount of lead weight from 
abandoned fishing lines would have a more significant potential impact 
than diver's weights. For example, one of our divers recently took part
in a lead fishing weight recovery effort with 10 other divers. With 11 
people doing two dives each, they recovered over 220 pounds of lead 
fishing weights at one dive site on Oahu.



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