[Coral-List] banning wild collection when mariculture sources exist [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

Todd Barber reefball at reefball.com
Fri Feb 29 09:16:07 EST 2008

Hi Les,

I don't believe our position would cause any problem with this as it
is unlikely that private businesses would be able to successfully
aquaculture more than a limited number of species leaving plenty l(and
perhaps enhancing the aquarium market's reputation and thus acceptance) for
sustainable collection.

Although the concept is great and I applaud efforts for sustainable
collection efforts, the problem I have on an intellectual level is that
their is really no such a thing without environmental enhancements, as by
definition, natural systems are already balanced.  We have known for a long
time that there are great dangers of sustainable collection in systems that
we don't have a complete scientific understanding.... and that, at least for
today, is the state of our knowledge.


Todd R. Barber
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From: "margiea" <Margie.Atkinson at gbrmpa.gov.au>
To: "Les Kaufman" <lesk at bu.edu>
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Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] banning wild collection when mariculture sources 

I agree - my personal view is that the key word in this entire debate is
"sustainable". From a conservation point of view it should be prefixed
by the word "ecologically" sustainable. The trick is definitely in
getting the triple bottom line-balance sorted, to foster stewardship. I
would be keen to see some more dialogue about other people's efforts to
resolve this one.


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Les Kaufman wrote, On 29/02/2008 14:18:
> Dear Todd,
> Re: your comment (below), things are not so simple.
> Sustainable collection of some aquarium species still represents a
> great potential for marine conservation by
> fueling one part of the incentive structure.
> Just because this potential is so often perverted doesn't mean it
> couldn't happen.
> We need experience in striking a balance in natural-products
> businesses that is most beneficial to long-term sustainability of
> coral reef systems in proximity to people.
> Les
> *****
> This answer is quite simple and our Foundation has been advocating it
> for
> years.  All countries should ban any aquarium species that can be
> demonstrated to be aquacultured by 3 or more private interests.
> This way, there would be no competition for raised (fish or corals) from
> wild sources so the market would develop a fair price.  A great
> example is
> the "Nemo" fish (clown fishes)....all can be fully reared in
> captivity but
> wild sources still account for the bulk of the market...why? It is
> cheaper
> to pay 10 cents for collection and a buck to ship it even if 10% die in
> shipping than to raise a fish that costs $5 bucks in food and
> electricity.
> Les Kaufman
> Professor of Biology
> Boston University Marine Program
> and
> Senior PI
> Marine Management Area Science
> Conservation International
> “I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.”
> George W. Bush
> Saginaw, Michigan; September 29, 2000
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