[Coral-List] Care with acronyms, was Re: Run up to Copenhagen...

Sun Dec 20 23:51:10 EST 2009

Confusions with acronyms could be avoided if everyone defined the acronyms 
they use the first time they use them, as is normally required in 
peer-reviewed literature.  If people use AGW to mean different things, then 
at least the reader would know which way it was being used by each reader. 
Doug

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "David M. Lawrence" <dave at fuzzo.com>
To: <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:43 AM
Subject: [Coral-List] Care with acronyms, was Re: Run up to Copenhagen...

> We've had a couple of messages appear that I find confusing in their
> usage of acronyms -- GW vs. AGW.
>
> GW I take it to mean, global warming, but it could also refer to
> anthropogenic global warming -- which usually takes the acronym AGW.
> AGW, however, has also been used to mean anti-global warming, at least I
> think so, which seems to be the opposite of the usage I have seen in a
> number of published scientific papers that use AGW to refer to GW or
> anthropogenic global warming.
>
> Confused?  So am I.  In the immortal words of the sergeant from Hill
> Street Blues, "Be careful out there."
>
> Or ... please choose your terms and acronyms wisely.
>
> Dave
>
> Delbeek, Charles wrote:
>> Just to add to this, the latest COSTCO magazine has a "counter point" 
>> argument to a previous issue's article by Al Gore on GW. Seems they 
>> received a LOT of response saying they were "choosing sides" and getting 
>> too "political". I'd be interested to hear comments addressing the 
>> counterpoints brought out in the letter by the AGW scientist.
>>
>>
>> J. Charles Delbeek, M.Sc.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov 
>> [mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of 
>> RainbowWarriorsInternational
>> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:42 AM
>> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Run up to Copenhagen- Hacked emails from 
>> serverused to discredit research
>>
>> In response to Eugene Shinn's contribution I would like to point out to 
>> what level the GW vs AGW war has sunk!
>>
>> The AGW vs GW camps are each debating the scientific rigor of the other 
>> camp in providing proofs.
>>
>> As
>> an environmentalist trained in mathematics I find the last twenty years
>> of science to have been invaded by pseudo-religion like thinking
>> coupled to appealing to cheap sentiments.
>>
>> Right now as
>> mathematician I see the proofs making the case for GW outweigh those
>> for AGW, both in volume and in scope and in terms of quality of
>> scientific work.
>>
>> According to some recent figures there are some
>> 250,000 non-governmental organizations around the world dealing with
>> major environmental issues, nearly all of them dealing with either
>> biodiversity or climate change or both.
>>
>> Both
>> fields require wading through vast amounts of reports to keep current
>> and in most cases we assume the reports to be based on good science.
>>
>> Aside
>> from scientists either in the academe or in government agencies around
>> the world these organizations are the principal consumers of reports
>> and those together with the scientific community are responsible for
>> digesting and regurgitating the information in piecemeal chunks for the
>> general public.
>>
>> Freedom of speech
>> and expression are not be confused with the practice of science, where
>> we deal in absolute truths (proofs), hypotheses and theories based on
>> rigid methods for observation, deduction and reproducible proofs.
>>
>> The
>> realm of science is real, tangible and does not lend itself to
>> "reality-TV" interpretations of the real world, where perceptions and
>> dictated behaviors are presented to the viewers as reality.
>>
>> The
>> AGW camp is presenting a "reality TV" view of science to the world,
>> with the perceptions and dictated behaviors orchestrated by those who
>> have vested interest in such.
>>
>> But unlike the makers of reality
>> TV programming, the AGW camp is bent on not providing entertainment but
>> the rights of vested interests to damage the livelihoods and existence
>> of hundreds of millions around the world, in particular in coastal
>> zones and in island states.
>>
>> But now the AGW camp has reached an all-time low in their endeavors to 
>> prove the GW scientists to be a conniving set of doomsday scenario 
>> promoters.
>>
>> The email server of the Climate Research Institute in the UK was hacked 
>> and thousands of emails used "out of context" according to the 
>> scientists, owners of the email accounts.
>>
>> See the following links;
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html?_r=1
>> http://www.canada.com/Hacked+mails+heat+climate+change+debate/2280452/story...html
>>
>> Based on the illegally intercepted emails the AGW camp is now saying:
>> Hacked E-Mail Data Prompts Calls for Changes in Climate Research 
>> (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/science/earth/28hack.html)
>> In this heated debate the AGW is now violating three of most sacred of 
>> imperatives in the practice
>> of good science, being (1)  the moral imperative to promote the practice 
>> of
>> science to the betterment not the detriment of humanity, (2) violate 
>> scientists'  privacy to get at information to use out of context to 
>> slander them and discredit their theories, (3) undermining the essence of 
>> science that all must be based on proofs, which are verifiable truths, 
>> not lies and innuendo.
>>
>> Milton Ponson, President
>> Rainbow Warriors Core Foundation
>> (Rainbow Warriors International) Tel. +297 568 5908
>> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
>> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>> Email: southern_caribbean at yahoo.com    http://www.rainbowwarriors.net 
>> (Global)
>> http://www.projectparadigm.info
>>
>> Milton Ponson, President
>> Rainbow Warriors Core Foundation
>> (Rainbow Warriors International) Tel. +297 747 8280
>> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
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>>
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>> life
>>
>> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Eugene Shinn <eshinn at marine.usf.edu> wrote:
>>
>> From: Eugene Shinn <eshinn at marine.usf.edu>
>> Subject: [Coral-List] Run up to Copenhagen
>> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 10:55 AM
>>
>> Coral Listers will be interested in this latest run up to Copenhagen.
>> Gene
>> <http://www.copenhagendiagnosis.com/>http://www.copenhagendiagnosis.com/
>> --
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