[Coral-List] Global Warming Theory
Alan E Strong
Alan.E.Strong at noaa.gov
Tue Mar 10 21:41:04 EDT 2009
A very thoughtful [easy read] article on Climate Change was sent to my
son in NOAA's National Weather Service that was developed by Bob Ryan of
NBC Channel 4 DC [past President of American Meteorological Society].
It's a 6 part article, but I thought it was one of the best overview
pieces I've read on the topic. Very even-handed and science based
without being overly technical. If you're interested, I recommend the read.
Links to the other 5 parts are on the bottom of the web page.
James Cervino PhD. said the following on 3/9/2009 12:04 PM:
> Hey Gene, maybe a good paper titled energy, "BIOLOGY", and the environment!
> Geologists and atmospheric scientists forget to include biological feedback
> loops when playing with their little computer models.
> Many people that become emotionally crazy with-regards to the flat-earthers"
> denial of global warming, is due to their lack of an understanding of the "
> Biological Modulation of the Earth's Atmosphere" and the feedbacks associated
> with the entire biosphere (Margulis,L. & Lovelock,J.) The dialectics on both
> sides of this debate, where participants share at least some meanings and
> fundamental principles of inference in common is the overall reason for such
> explosive arguments to arise. Your conservative position forces you to not
> respect the role of biological feedbacks associated with the microbial world,
> hence its easy for you to say ; "no rocks no water, no life"
> Good day Gene!
> Dr. James M. Cervino
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> Visiting Scientist
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> Quoting Eugene Shinn <eshinn at marine.usf.edu>:
> * Wow! I suspected there may be fireworks but did not expect so much
> * deep philosophical soul-searching analysis. That's good!
> * Over the weekend I read an essay by a friend of long standing,
> * Bob Foster, a geologist and one of the leading AGW contrarians in
> * Australia. He has just edited an upcoming issue of the UK journal
> * (Energy & Environment 2009, vol. 20 no 1 & 2 ) He said " After 5
> * months of misery, it is now "in press" at last. He said, "I chose
> * natural drivers of weather and climate, albeit broadly interpreted,
> * as its subject - being a deliberate challenge to the assertion of the
> * Great and the Good that our weather and climate are primarily
> * people-driven."
> * Bob wrote an extensive essay/introduction to the vol. and sent
> * me a preprint. On the 4th page of his introduction, after describing
> * the contributions of the various authors, he says. "Now is the time
> * for a digression. I was at Adelaide University during the last decade
> * of the half-century struggle between the then-dominant paradigm of
> * Hutton/Lyell Uniformitarianism, and Wegener's theory of Continental
> * Drift. If we students had admitted we preferred continents that
> * drift, we may well have been failed. (Ironically, the overthrow of
> * Flood Geology - all sediments were either pre-diluvian or
> * anti-diluvian- by uniformitarianism, had itself been a giant step
> * forward.) Scientists are herd-animals; they revere consensus, and are
> * protective of the status quo. Here quoting noted geologist (and
> * contributor to this volume) Cliff Ollier: R. T. Chemberlin said
> * geologists might well ask if theirs could still be regarded as a
> * science when it is "possible for a theory like this to run
> * wild"...And: Sir Harold Jeffres disposed of continental drift
> * as...."an explanation which explains nothing which we wish to have
> * explained".
> * Sadly, antipathy to new ideas is endemic in science. When John
> * Maddox introduced peer-review to NATURE, he found he had to exempt
> * Fred Hoyle and Louis Leaky; because reviews of their papers were so
> * trenchantly negative. Two of the authors I sought out for this issue
> * suffered some (not all) negative reviews - to the point where higher
> * authority has felt unable to grant them "Refereed" status. But, both
> * papers survive-and both are interesting and thought-provoking"
> * Later in the introduction Foster brings up echos of Russia's
> * Lysenko affair. One of his authors quoted James Hansen (climate
> * scientist at NOAA) at a hearing organized by Senator Tim Wirth. In it
> * Hansen said about companies that emitt CO2, "In my opinion, these
> * CEOs should be tried for high crimes against humanity and nature. If
> * their campaigns continue and "succeed" in confusing the public, I
> * anticipate testifying against relevant CEOs in future public trials."
> * The final words about Lysenkos power in Russia were ominous.
> * "The director of the Institute of Genetics at the USSR Academy of
> * Science, Nikolai Vavilov, was a Mendelian theoretician of
> * high-standing. But in 1940, Vaivilov was arrested; and after 11
> * months of interrogation, he and two colleagues were tried and
> * sentenced to death. His sentence --only--was commuted; but he died in
> * prison. "
> * The readers may remember Lysenkos theory that ste Russian science
> * for many years. It said that evolution is rapid and changes are
> * acquired over a generation. Thus, the environment/political system
> * could mould humankind. It fit the politics and government policies
> * of the day. Pretty Scary! Is anything like that happening today?
> * So, even though the story I contributed about psychological help
> * for climate deniers was intended as humorous I could not help but
> * wonder. People have done some really serious and crazy things in the
> * past...not to mention silly wars. Are we going into a period of
> * craziness again? I look forward to reading the entire vol of "Energy&
> * Environment" when it becomes available. Possibly some coral-list
> * readers will want to read it as well. Meanwhile, lets hope this
> * unusually cold winter is nearly over. Gene
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