[Coral-List] Care with acronyms, was Re: Run up to Copenhagen...
David M. Lawrence
dave at fuzzo.com
Mon Nov 30 09:43:39 EST 2009
We've had a couple of messages appear that I find confusing in their
usage of acronyms -- GW vs. AGW.
GW I take it to mean, global warming, but it could also refer to
anthropogenic global warming -- which usually takes the acronym AGW.
AGW, however, has also been used to mean anti-global warming, at least I
think so, which seems to be the opposite of the usage I have seen in a
number of published scientific papers that use AGW to refer to GW or
anthropogenic global warming.
Confused? So am I. In the immortal words of the sergeant from Hill
Street Blues, "Be careful out there."
Or ... please choose your terms and acronyms wisely.
Dave
Delbeek, Charles wrote:
> Just to add to this, the latest COSTCO magazine has a "counter point" argument to a previous issue's article by Al Gore on GW. Seems they received a LOT of response saying they were "choosing sides" and getting too "political". I'd be interested to hear comments addressing the counterpoints brought out in the letter by the AGW scientist.
>
>
> J. Charles Delbeek, M.Sc.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov [mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of RainbowWarriorsInternational
> Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 6:42 AM
> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Run up to Copenhagen- Hacked emails from serverused to discredit research
>
> In response to Eugene Shinn's contribution I would like to point out to what level the GW vs AGW war has sunk!
>
> The AGW vs GW camps are each debating the scientific rigor of the other camp in providing proofs.
>
> As
> an environmentalist trained in mathematics I find the last twenty years
> of science to have been invaded by pseudo-religion like thinking
> coupled to appealing to cheap sentiments.
>
> Right now as
> mathematician I see the proofs making the case for GW outweigh those
> for AGW, both in volume and in scope and in terms of quality of
> scientific work.
>
> According to some recent figures there are some
> 250,000 non-governmental organizations around the world dealing with
> major environmental issues, nearly all of them dealing with either
> biodiversity or climate change or both.
>
> Both
> fields require wading through vast amounts of reports to keep current
> and in most cases we assume the reports to be based on good science.
>
> Aside
> from scientists either in the academe or in government agencies around
> the world these organizations are the principal consumers of reports
> and those together with the scientific community are responsible for
> digesting and regurgitating the information in piecemeal chunks for the
> general public.
>
> Freedom of speech
> and expression are not be confused with the practice of science, where
> we deal in absolute truths (proofs), hypotheses and theories based on
> rigid methods for observation, deduction and reproducible proofs.
>
> The
> realm of science is real, tangible and does not lend itself to
> "reality-TV" interpretations of the real world, where perceptions and
> dictated behaviors are presented to the viewers as reality.
>
> The
> AGW camp is presenting a "reality TV" view of science to the world,
> with the perceptions and dictated behaviors orchestrated by those who
> have vested interest in such.
>
> But unlike the makers of reality
> TV programming, the AGW camp is bent on not providing entertainment but
> the rights of vested interests to damage the livelihoods and existence
> of hundreds of millions around the world, in particular in coastal
> zones and in island states.
>
> But now the AGW camp has reached an all-time low in their endeavors to prove the GW scientists to be a conniving set of doomsday scenario promoters.
>
> The email server of the Climate Research Institute in the UK was hacked and thousands of emails used "out of context" according to the scientists, owners of the email accounts.
>
> See the following links;
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/21/science/earth/21climate.html?_r=1
> http://www.canada.com/Hacked+mails+heat+climate+change+debate/2280452/story...html
>
> Based on the illegally intercepted emails the AGW camp is now saying:
> Hacked E-Mail Data Prompts Calls for Changes in Climate Research (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/28/science/earth/28hack.html)
> In this heated debate the AGW is now violating three of most sacred of imperatives in the practice
> of good science, being (1) the moral imperative to promote the practice of
> science to the betterment not the detriment of humanity, (2) violate scientists' privacy to get at information to use out of context to slander them and discredit their theories, (3) undermining the essence of science that all must be based on proofs, which are verifiable truths, not lies and innuendo.
>
> Milton Ponson, President
> Rainbow Warriors Core Foundation
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> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
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> Milton Ponson, President
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>
> To unite humanity in a global society dedicated to a sustainable way of life
>
> --- On Tue, 11/24/09, Eugene Shinn <eshinn at marine.usf.edu> wrote:
>
> From: Eugene Shinn <eshinn at marine.usf.edu>
> Subject: [Coral-List] Run up to Copenhagen
> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2009, 10:55 AM
>
> Coral Listers will be interested in this latest run up to Copenhagen.
> Gene
> <http://www.copenhagendiagnosis.com/>http://www.copenhagendiagnosis.com/
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