[Coral-List] About Coral List rewrite
gbustamante at bellsouth.net
Mon Nov 30 14:24:51 EST 2009
I agree with Billy.
If Coral list needs a rewriting oif its statement "coral reef science and
management" could include all we need from it.
From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
[mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov] On Behalf Of Billy Causey
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:20 AM
To: Jim Hendee
Cc: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] About Coral List rewrite
You and your team do an incredible job of keeping the Coral List
current, engaging and fair. The service you provide is unmatched on any
other list serve that I am a member of ...not that the rest aren't great
too. Personally, I enjoy the ebb and flow between science, research,
monitoring, education, outreach, enforcement and other similar "topics"
or "subjects" .... that's what makes it interesting and informative. I
can tell you... science alone is not going to save coral reefs from
decline, nor will education alone save coral reefs from decline ... but
all of these subjects in some way have a role on the Coral List. If
people get tired of a subject or a thread ...they can hit the delete
button, as I do when I see certain postings. Keep up what you're doing
...... and yes, we can talk about climate change now!!
I am attaching a link that I received from one of my colleagues over the
weekend. I hope you approve it for posting. It brings to mind some of
the "advocates" for good science that I see routinely posting on the
Jim Hendee wrote:
> Hi, Gene,
> Not sure why the political jab at the U.S. constitution, but
> certainly I never intended to carve the "About" page in aragonite.
> Regarding "subjects" vs. "science," I guess it seemed obvious to me that
> the subjects were areas of actual research, for the most part. I work
> for NOAA, so call me guilty of referring to "climate change," "land-base
> sources of pollution," and "over-fishing" as a sampling of "research"
> that we and many others conduct daily. A rose by any other name...
> Those other "subjects" such as disease, reproduction, etc. seem to me to
> be areas of valid science, and what's the harm if a non-scientist throws
> in an observation or six and calls it something besides "science?"
> What's your beef? I don't get it. Are you miffed because science is
> getting short shrift in your opinion? The agencies who fund science
> aren't going to hold back the purse strings if the author of the
> proposal doesn't use the word "science" in it.
> However, thanks for the input and I'll see if I can throw that token
> in there more to assuage anybody else's sense of the world of science
> lost to politics or whatever else.
> Eugene Shinn wrote:
>> Jim, The US constitution is being rewritten almost everyday so I
>> guess its is ok to rewrite the purposes of the coral-list. Under the
>> heading "Appropriate coral reef ecosystem-related subjects" I see
>> that what we used to call science is now called "subjects"
>> Of the 20 bulleted topics I see only one uses the word science. But
>> its your call. Gene
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