[Coral-List] Copenhagen flop revisited: Gene Shinn again confusingweather and climate

Ove Hoegh-Guldberg oveh at uq.edu.au
Tue Oct 27 02:38:49 EDT 2009

Well said John.  This sort of unsophisticated viewpoint is simply



Ove Hoegh-Guldberg

Smart State Premier's Fellow (2008-2013), Director, Global Change
Institute; Director, Stanford Australia; Reviewing Editor at Science
Magazine, and Deputy Director, ARC Centre for Excellence in Coral Reef
Studies; BLOG: www.climateshifts.org LAB: www.coralreefecosystems.org

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Subject: [Coral-List] Copenhagen flop revisited: Gene Shinn again
confusingweather and climate

As I pointed out a few weeks ago, Gene, like many anthropogenic  
climate change skeptics, is confusing weather and climate.  But you  
have to wonder if this ignorance is willful.  It may indeed have been  
cool in Florida last week.  I was in Amherst, MA then and was in  
shorts and a t-shirt.  But both facts are irrelevant in the debate  
over the role of people in the observed the climatic warming.  Is that  
not obvious?

That "it was cold in my home town last week!" is a very common skeptic  
argument, referred to as the "it's freaking cold!" argument:

or the  "Wagga Wagga" argument:

as in "it's cold today in Wagga Wagga!"

You can read the overview of skeptic arguments, including links that  
falsify them, I sent to the coral-list a while back here:

John Bruno
Associate Professor
UNC Chapel Hill

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