[Coral-List] Media and Oil Spill Science
gchallenger at msn.com
gchallenger at msn.com
Fri Aug 27 08:20:22 EDT 2010
What can I say? My experiences are more in line with Mr. Reddy's. Perhaps you are a very accurate journalist.
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 23:11:27
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Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Media and Oil Spill Science
I'm a journalist, and I know quite a few journalists now, and I've not a
hell of a lot of journalists in the 40 or so years I've been associated
with them. They do prize accuracy and work hard to maintain their
credibility. If you can do -- and have done -- a better job under the
intense deadline pressures they face, which are even worse now with
24-hour news cycles, be my guest and criticize them. But given the fact
that some of what you have said doesn't square with my personal
experience of many of my colleagues, I rather doubt you have met my
On 8/26/2010 6:57 PM, Greg Challenger wrote:
> I dont presume to speak for all the scientists on the spill but I have no indication that they do not believe that the majority of the oil is evaporated, dispersed, burned, recovered, etc. It is not a hard conclusion to reach since about 30-40% evaporates in the first five days after it hits the surface. Natural and chemical dispersion did a lot, mineral oil aggregation, photo-oxdation, biologial activity, etc. etc. It is not much of a leap to assume more than 10-20% of that which remains after evaporation is burned, dispersed, recovered, etc. which puts us into the "majority column". I would hope that nature and the response have dealt a blow to at least 20% or more of the oil by now. That number is likely higher. The "bubbas" (term of endearment) on the beach cleaning the oil will tell you the difference on the shorelines from several months ago and today. It is dramatic.
> We have snorkel surveys, nearshore snare traps, fluorometer searches, bottom grabs, ROVs and hordes of other samples and activities looking for this oil that the public fears is out there waiting to rear its ugly head and come back to get us. This fear is natural and I dont fault anyone for their concern. The fact of the matter is that the visible and chemically detectable oil decreases rather than increases over time. Hurricane Alex also likely helped disperse quite a bit. You may have noticed you havent seen too many beaches on CNN lately.....nothing to see that will traumatize viewers suffiently to boost ratings. You may have also noticed that the report of the subsurface "plume" that has been flying around the news was from two months ago. I dont think anyone argues there was more oil in the water two months ago.
> I have had a fair amount of experience with the media and spills. I have not talked to media in over five years as they have never reported anything I have said with any accuracy whatsoever. Accuracy is not within their top ten objectives. Starting a controversy is priority number one. It seems Mr.. Reddy may have learned this lesson as well.
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>> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:44:33 -0400
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>> Subject: [Coral-List] Media and Oil Spill Science
>> Chris Reddy makes good points in his op-ed piece for CNN,
>> but the headline could be misleading.
>> Perhaps it should read:“How the science relating to the gulf
>> oil spill was mangled by everyone involved.”
>> I don’t like being put in the position of defending the media,
>> but are they really the most culpable in this scenario?
>> With all due respect, how else was the information released in
>> the NIC report of August 2 to be interpreted if not as an overly
>> optimistic assessment claiming that a significant portion of the oil
>> spill’s impact had been successfully mitigated?
>> Why else would introductory statements at the White House press
>> conference on the report (August 4) suggest that: “The conclusions --
>> key conclusions of the report is that the vast majority of the oil
>> has either evaporated or been burned, skimmed and recovered from the wellhead,
>> or dispersed. And much of the dispersed oil is in the process of relatively
>> rapid degradation.”
>> Followed by a further endorsement that “This has all been subjected to
>> a scientific protocol, which means you peer review, peer review and peer review.”
>> Even the Georgia Sea Grant update of August 17 that seemed to clearly challenge
>> the Inter-Agency Oil Budget Report explained that it determined that
>> “the media interpretation of the (NIC) report’s findings has been largely
>> inaccurate and misleading.” (Rather than the report itself.)
>> So the question remains, was it really the reporters who mangled the science
>> or in this case, did the “science” mangle the reporters?
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