[Coral-List] sarcasm, disagreements, etc

Tom Williams ctwiliams at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 3 14:48:35 EST 2010

To ALL - reminder
A good physicist friend a long time ago said the difference between us and other scientists is that "We know how wrong we are..."  Also science/scientific method supposedly trains us to know what is NOT (most of the time) rather than what IS...and almost by definition we can't really be sure that it is NOT...
BUT Life is NOT science and decisions are being made now based on info which can't not be FULLY verified - only hope - and I go back to the medicial approach - "informed Consent" and "Do NO Harm" wish BP in GoM would have followed same...

--- On Fri, 12/3/10, Jim Hendee <jim.hendee at noaa.gov> wrote:

From: Jim Hendee <jim.hendee at noaa.gov>
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] sarcasm, disagreements, etc
To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
Date: Friday, December 3, 2010, 11:10 AM


The reason the threads go on for days and daze is because, I reckon, a)
people are stubborn and rarely change their mind (at least publicly, as
in, "By gosh, you were right and I was wrong!  I'm done!"), b) I'm
tempted to let everybody have their say (and there are over 6,500 of
us), and, c) the issues are complex and it's difficult to come to an
easy consensus on complex topics.  The problem from my end is trying to
chop off a thread when it goes astray instead of staying "on topic,"
whatever that is.  Like, now I guess I've gone off topic...


On 12/3/10 1:50 PM, Rudy Bonn wrote:
> There is nothing wrong with lively debate, it provides me, with the opportunity to see more than one side of an issue, the sarcasm and name calling can be left out, but in my case, the more debate the better, and I was wondering Jim, why does the list keep running the same threads for days on in, just curious, I also believe that folks need to be a little more succinct in their expressions, that would be a big help.  Lets face it, the reason most of us subscribe to the list in the first place is because we are all concerned about the health and sustainability of the world ocean and all of its components, in this case, coral reef ecosystems take priority.  If we are to safe our coral reefs, and ultimately our ocean, we need to work together towards solutions, we know many as they are obivious to anyone who has a brain, I would hope, and it is only through scientific knowledge and expression that we are to arrive at those solutions, another fact,
>  is not always an exact science, therefore the need for debate and differences of opinions, it helps to see all ideas and thoughts, put them together and estabish methods and means to solving problems, one of the biggest problems we face is that there is just too damn many of us, we cant start a soylent green factory now can we, we all and I mean the entire world community has to work together, its a challenge, but we have no choice, 
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