[Coral-List] More on climate

Dale W Griffin dgriffin at usgs.gov
Fri Jan 8 08:46:40 EST 2010

As I'm suffering through a second cruel winter in a row here in what 
should normally be 'balmy Tallahassee' I have to ask this 
question..........is the WMO data 'raw'

"Everybody is ignorant, just on different subjects"
                                           Will Rogers

Dale W. Griffin, Ph.D., MSPH
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Albert Norström <albert at ecology.su.se>
Eugene Shinn <eshinn at marine.usf.edu>
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01/08/2010 08:21 AM
Re: [Coral-List] More on climate
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All John Coleman does is reiterate a bunch of arguments plucked 
straight out from the skeptic cupboard. Lets see, solar activity as 
the main driver of current warming? Oh yes, its in there. But seeing 
that there has been no positive trend in any solar index since the 
1960s (and possibly a small negative trend), we can safely conclude 
that solar forcing cannot be responsible for the recent temperature 
trends. Cherry-picking data to show recent cooling trends? Sure, 
Coleman shows a graph with temperature curve from 2002 to 2006 and 
confidently claims that this proves that the dastardly IPCC and their 
cronies are wrong. Strange that the founder of the weather channel 
cant tell the difference between climate and weather; and that he 
chooses to ignore the latest report from the World Metereological 
Organization (
) that states: ? The year 2009 is likely to rank in the top 10 warmest 
on record since the beginning of instrumental climate records in 1850, 
according to data sources compiled by the World Meteorological 
Organization (WMO).? and that ? The decade of the 2000s (2000?2009) 
was warmer than the decade spanning the 1990s (1990?1999), which in 
turn was warmer than the 1980s (1980?1989).? Does he mention 
climategate? Ofcourse! Data has been fabricated and journals pressed 
in not accepting papers that prove global warming is a hoax! Except 
that the emails referred to in the climategate scandal do not in any 
way show that data has been fabricated or that any research has been 
stopped from publication (see John Brunos post on this on 
climateshifts, http://www.climateshifts.org/?p=3717).

There?s a few more, but I?ll leave it to other to debunk them if they 
see fit. I?m just curious as to why, when all of John Colemans 
arguments have been dealt with, recently, on this mailing-list, we 
must still be exposed to them over and over again?

All the best,

/Albert Norström

On 7 jan 2010, at 17.51, Eugene Shinn wrote:

> Another interesting take on climate change but its from now and not
> from 1922.  Gene
> <http://www.kusi.com/home/78477082.html?video=pop&t=a>http:// 
> www.kusi.com/home/78477082.html?video=pop&t=a
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