[Coral-List] La Nina and global warming

[Greg Challenger]

I dont see any shameless exploitation from Gene Shin.  
 
Can you help direct me to his shameless exploitation?

 
 
Greg E. Challenger
Marine Scientist/Principal
Polaris Applied Sciences, Incorporated
12525 131st Ct NE Kirkland, WA 98034 
425-823-4841 
425-823-3805 fx 
206-369-5686 cell 
visit us at: www.polarisappliedsciences.com
 



 
> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:44:51 -0500
> From: allison.billiam at gmail.com
> To: gchallenger at msn.com
> CC: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] La Nina and global warming
> 
> One more time: scientific conclusions are inherently uncertain and
> this fact is shamelessly exploited by those merchants of doubt, the
> climate change contrarians.
> 
> Greg Challenger wrote: "Isnt it a good thing that those who question
> the certainty of any scientific conclusion be scientifically literate?
> I understand folks feel their data and conclusions are absolutely
> correct, but has anyone ever been absolutely correct about any data or
> conclusions?
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Greg Challenger <gchallenger at msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > "one of the most disturbing aspects of this discussion is the fact that many
> > contrarians are scientifically literate and most certainly capable of complex
> > intellectual analysis."   Steve Mussman
> >
> > First let me point out I am not a contrarian.  I think there is a lot of compelling evidence. Nonetheless, I find this statement disturbing.  Isnt it a good thing that those who question the certainty of any scientific conclusion be scientifically literate?  I understand folks feel their data and conclusions are absolutely correct, but has anyone ever been absolutely correct about any data or conclusions?
> >
> > I thoroughly enjoy Gene's comments and am not so sure that those who question can be dismissed so easily.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg E. Challenger
> > Marine Scientist/Principal
> > Polaris Applied Sciences, Incorporated
> > 12525 131st Ct NE Kirkland, WA 98034
> > 425-823-4841
> > 425-823-3805 fx
> > 206-369-5686 cell
> > visit us at: www.polarisappliedsciences.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 13:39:52 -0500
> >> From: sealab at earthlink.net
> >> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> >> Subject: [Coral-List] La Nina and global warming
> >>
> >> Got to admit, Gene's climate change "pokings" can sometimes be disquieting.
> >> But at the same time this discourse should be vigorously encouraged.
> >> The positions that he conveys, though inciting consternation, stand as a
> >> reminder of the extent and complexity of the task at hand.
> >> No one seriously involved in the debate relating to anthropogenic
> >> climate change is suggesting that the skeptics are "dummies". Quite the contrary,
> >> one of the most disturbing aspects of this discussion is the fact that many
> >> contrarians are scientifically literate and most certainly capable of complex
> >> intellectual analysis. Though Gene seems to preclude many members of congress
> >> from this group, politicians will simply continue to do what politicians do.
> >> That is to say, they will position themselves on the issues based on what is
> >> most likely to result in prolonging their incumbency.
> >> Again this realization prioritizes the need for more effective communication
> >> by the scientific community directly designed to affect public opinion..
> >> If the best climate science becomes more clearly expressed, it will change public
> >> opinion and the politicians will follow. Expecting insightful political leaders
> >> to courageously rise up and advance the fight on principle will likely prove futile.
> >> But don't underestimate them, our politicians can understand the science..
> >> Its just that first and foremost their interests lay in the next election cycle,
> >> not in the ramifications of policy positions that may not damage their prospects
> >> for decades.
> >>
> >> As Gene mentioned, the political winds have recently changed.
> >> Perhaps he is spot on to suggest that the focus of concern should be to assure
> >> that pure science weathers this storm. For although there is little evidence of
> >> adequate resolve, I hesitate to envision the resulting turmoil engulfing future
> >> generations if science surrenders.
> >>
> >> Steve
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