[Coral-List] La Nina and global warming

David M. Lawrence dave at fuzzo.com
Tue Nov 16 17:46:30 EST 2010


One of the reasons they probably did not put so much emphasis on water 
vapor is that it is a feedback, not a forcing.  Water vapor has a short 
residence time in the atmosphere -- days -- thus isn't likely to drive 
long-term climate changes.  CO2 and other greenhouse gases have much 
longer residence times.  They are the ones that drive long-term changes 
in temperature that the water vapor concentrations respond to.

Dave

On 11/16/2010 2:36 PM, Eugene Shinn wrote:
> Dear Listers, Good to see the neurons are firing on all cylinders.
> The Geological Society of London statement
> http://www.geolsoc.org.uk/gsl/views/policy_statements/climatechange
> is well done. It pretty much says what I have been trying to say. I
> was a little concerned that they did not put more emphasis on water
> vapor as the greatest green house gas or methane and others. But then
> the IPCC said little as well. Why are we all so stuck on Co2? Plants
> love it!
>       Also, there was no mention that ice cores show warming occurred
> before Co2 peaked by at least 400 years. Shouldn't it be the other
> way around?  I would like to suggest a new book by Robert Carter a
> well-respected Australian geologist/paleontologist. The title is,
> "Climate: The Counter Consensus.:
> The book is technical but easy reading and is not strident like so
> many anti AGW/IPCC publications. He even discusses corals and ocean
> acidification oops! I meant alkalinity shift, which he clearly
> explains. There is a lot about sea level rise and fall and how it
> depends on where you are. His major point is the IPCC is all about
> "projections" (their words) not predictions as the mass media and
> warming enthusiasts call it. Gene
>

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