[Coral-List] Fw: TNC Reef Resilience Project Manager Position Open

Douglas Fenner dfenner at blueskynet.as
Thu Oct 7 01:15:12 EDT 2010

    To reply to the first point in your message, I think churches are treated as non-profit organizations in the U.S., hence for
 tax purposes they are treated the same way as other non-profits that we
 generally call NGO's.  Saying that "NGO's operate pretty much like churches"
 may might be misinterpreted by some as you saying that NGOs are religious organizations or have
 other features of operation similar to churchs.  Some NGO's are actually for profit organizations, and strictly speaking, businesses are
 non-governmental organizations, though that's not what we usually mean when we say NGO.   Better to say it the other way around,
 that churches in the U.S. are non-profits as are many other NGOs.


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Eugene Shinn" <eshinn at marine.usf.edu>
> To: <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
> Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 7:30 AM
> Subject: [Coral-List] TNC Reef Resilience Project Manager Position Open
>> This Job advertisement on the coral-list has me a little confused.
>> TNC (The Nature Conservancy) is an NGO (non governmental
>> organization). It has always been my understanding that NGO's operate
>> pretty much like churches. Donations are tax deductible. This
>> advertisement for a Reef Resilience Project Manager clearly states
>> that it is to "provide technical and managerial support to the
>> NOAA-TNC partnership." Partnership? I guess that means NOAA and this
>> NGO will work hand in hand to address mutual goals which of course
>> will ultimately be implemented and enforced by NOAA. I guess I just
>> do not understand. I always thought that it was illegal to have such
>> collusion between independent organizations and government
>> organizations.
>>      Back when I was concerned about The Center for Biodiversity
>> suing NOAA to put Acroporid corals on the threatened list I suspected
>> there was collusion. I was told that was not so and received angry
>> calls from a CBD lawyer because I maintained that "if you don't know
>> what is killing it then you don't know what to protect it from." At
>> the same time NOAA (NMFS) employees said they had no choice (as
>> explained on the coral-list) but to follow the laws and that NOAA had
>> no choice because they lost the suit made by CBD. NOAA had no plans
>> to put these species on the endangered list but were forced to do it
>> because they lost the law suit. Now this advertisement seems to make
>> it clear that NGO's, (which CBD is) in fact do work hand in hand to
>> make decisions that ultimately turn into laws. One can conclude that
>> it is clear that this collusion will enable the listing of 82 coral
>> species which the CBD is petitioning NOAA to list as threatened.
>> There will of course be unintended consequences and likely intended
>> consequences. I would like for someone in the coral community to
>> explain all of this in clear understandable language. The
>> advertisement for the job does say it requires "Ability to simplify
>> and explain complex scientific data to general audiences."
>>      Incidentally the CBD recently lobbied a judge to place a
>> moratorium on BOEMRE (formerly the Minerals Management Service)
>> offshore leasing because their Environmental Impact Statements do not
>> adequately explain how they determine environmental "Sensitivity" and
>> "Resiliency" This clearly shows the power of NGO's. Meanwhile we
>> import three fourths of our oil from some unfriendly sources and
>> actions such as described will likely lead to increased imports. Is
>> this good for our country and our coral reefs? Gene
>> -- 
>> No Rocks, No Water, No Ecosystem (EAS)
>> ------------------------------------ -----------------------------------
>> E. A. Shinn, Courtesy Professor
>> University of South Florida
>> Marine Science Center (room 204)
>> 140 Seventh Avenue South
>> St. Petersburg, FL 33701
>> <eshinn at marine.usf.edu>
>> Tel 727 553-1158---------------------------------- 
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