[Coral-List] Chagos Marine Protected Area

[Pete Raines]

  Dear Listers,

Kind words but for the record: It was the Chagos Conservation Trust who 
thought of this, inspired all and thus made it happen. CCC merely played 
our small part as implementers of CCT's foresight, belief, vision and 
action.

All the best,

Pete


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On 19/09/2010 17:00, coral-list-request at coral.aoml.noaa.gov wrote:
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>     1. hi... research (Lucia Licero)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 16:43:30 -0500
> From: Lucia Licero<llicero at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Coral-List] hi... research
> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
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> Hello I'm devoloping a reserach on biological control of harmful marcoalgae
> of the coral reefs on Islas del Rosario, Colombia, is there any chance that
> you have information about that specific topic? or if someone has done this
> quiestion please let me know all the comments and feedbacks that it had.
>
> BEST REGARDS
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:08:23 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
> From: Steve LeGore<slegore at mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Media and Oil Spill Science
> To: Ed Blume<eblume2702 at gmail.com>, Steve Mussman
> 	<sealab at earthlink.net>
> Cc: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"<coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
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> What a marvelous opportunity to obliterate all bounds of civilized discourse!  It will allow us to disregard scientific method and have the pleasure of metaphorically scratching each others' eyes out to determine who is right.  How very Jerry Springerish.
>
> Such a site might also be a wonderful source of ammunition for lucrative libel and slander suits, wouldn't you think?
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ed Blume<eblume2702 at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Sep 17, 2010 2:02 PM
>> To: Steve Mussman<sealab at earthlink.net>
>> Cc: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"<coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
>> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Media and Oil Spill Science
>>
>> I created a listserve for these types of discussions, Steve, at
>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/coralreef-freeforall/ after Jim posted
>> the following.  It's not yet large or very active, but I hope that it
>> becomes a place where coral reef scientists can say whatever they want to
>> say (within the usual bounds of polite society).
>>
>> *I am most seriously suggesting that "somebody" (not me!) consider starting
>> a Coral Reef Curmudgeons (or Coral Reef Politics, or whatever) list using,
>> say Yahoo Groups. There you can call each other dirty rotten scoundrels, you
>> can post all kids of illustrative or condemning pictures, you can say
>> whichever U.S. or state government agency is doing a rotten job because
>> so-and-so let his ego get in the way (or whatever), you can say Dr.
>> Blackshark falsified his results, you can say global warming is a big
>> liberal tree-hugging hoax manufactured to keep scientists employed, you can
>> post sarcasm intended to embarrass or provoke, or that all Dr. Blackshark's
>> research money is going to buy junkets to Bali in the name of some dubious
>> research pretext. Such a list might be refreshing, humorous, illuminating
>> and actually useful in letting off steam. New friendships and enemies will
>> be made, people may get embarrassed or feel vindicated, and havoc may
>> result, but some of the truths may enlighten us all. It would be a true,
>> free-wheelin' list to say what you thinkwithout government censorship. It's
>> just an idea to consider. -- Jim Hendee, who has no connection with this
>> list serve other than suggesting its creation.*
>> Ed Blume
>> Communications Director for RENEW Wisconsin
>> <http://www.renewwisconsin.org/>(a renewable energy advocacy NGO)
>> and
>> Reef enthusiast, diver, and non-scientist
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Steve Mussman<sealab at earthlink.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> Realizing that there is a spirited consensus (based on remarks
>>> posted in previous discussions) that we keep this list from becoming
>>> politically charged, I would like to momentarily step between adversaries
>>> involved in the discussion on the media and oil spill science.
>>>
>>> My fear is that without modification we may ultimately lose
>>> the opportunity to candidly discuss issues that are in vital need
>>> of being aired among members of this forum.
>>>
>>> Considering that there is an obvious call for scientists to communicate
>>> more directly with the public on so many contemporary issues,
>>> although fully unauthorized, I would like to make a suggestion.
>>>
>>> When participants are identifying themselves (by citing credentials)
>>> it might help to avoid undue controversy (and the associated
>>> animus this sometimes creates) if they would freely reveal any
>>> affiliations that might reflect even the potential for a conflict of
>>> interest.
>>>
>>> In this way, perhaps we can assure the continuation of these much needed
>>> and valued discussions and, at the same time, be able to more accurately
>>> assess and evaluate the opinions expressed without eliciting resentment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Steve Mussman
>>> Totally void of credentials worthy of mention.
>>> Just an old diver and self-avowed ocean and marine life advocate.
>>>
>>>
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> Steve LeGore, Ph.D.
> LeGore Environmental Associates, Inc.
> 2804 Gulf Drive N.
> Holmes Beach, Florida 34217 USA
> Tel: 941/778-4650
> Fax: 941/778-4761
> Cell: 941/447-8010
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:21:09 -0500
> From: Ed Blume<eblume2702 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Media and Oil Spill Science
> To: Steve LeGore<slegore at mindspring.com>
> Cc: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"<coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
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> Nope.  On the listserve called Coral Reef Free for All, no one may
> "obliterate all bounds of civilized discourse!"  While lightly
> moderated, as the moderator, I won't allow cussin', name callin',
> racism, sexism, anti-Muslimism, and so on.
>
> However, you may state your opinions and other may disagree with them.
>   You may criticize government agencies or universities or other sacred
> cows, but only as two people might when disagreeing on issues in
> polite and public society.
>
> Ed Blume
> Communicaitons Director, RENEW Wisconsin, an NGO advocating for
> renewable energy in the Badger State
> and
> Reef enthusiast since high school a long time ago in Indiana, diver,
> and smart enough to know what's polite even if I'm not a scientist.
> ;-)
>
> On 9/17/10, Steve LeGore<slegore at mindspring.com>  wrote:
>> What a marvelous opportunity to obliterate all bounds of civilized
>> discourse!  It will allow us to disregard scientific method and have the
>> pleasure of metaphorically scratching each others' eyes out to determine who
>> is right.  How very Jerry Springerish.
>>
>> Such a site might also be a wonderful source of ammunition for lucrative
>> libel and slander suits, wouldn't you think?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ed Blume<eblume2702 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Sep 17, 2010 2:02 PM
>>> To: Steve Mussman<sealab at earthlink.net>
>>> Cc: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"<coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
>>> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Media and Oil Spill Science
>>>
>>> I created a listserve for these types of discussions, Steve, at
>>> http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/coralreef-freeforall/ after Jim posted
>>> the following.  It's not yet large or very active, but I hope that it
>>> becomes a place where coral reef scientists can say whatever they want to
>>> say (within the usual bounds of polite society).
>>>
>>> *I am most seriously suggesting that "somebody" (not me!) consider starting
>>> a Coral Reef Curmudgeons (or Coral Reef Politics, or whatever) list using,
>>> say Yahoo Groups. There you can call each other dirty rotten scoundrels,
>>> you
>>> can post all kids of illustrative or condemning pictures, you can say
>>> whichever U.S. or state government agency is doing a rotten job because
>>> so-and-so let his ego get in the way (or whatever), you can say Dr.
>>> Blackshark falsified his results, you can say global warming is a big
>>> liberal tree-hugging hoax manufactured to keep scientists employed, you can
>>> post sarcasm intended to embarrass or provoke, or that all Dr. Blackshark's
>>> research money is going to buy junkets to Bali in the name of some dubious
>>> research pretext. Such a list might be refreshing, humorous, illuminating
>>> and actually useful in letting off steam. New friendships and enemies will
>>> be made, people may get embarrassed or feel vindicated, and havoc may
>>> result, but some of the truths may enlighten us all. It would be a true,
>>> free-wheelin' list to say what you thinkwithout government censorship. It's
>>> just an idea to consider. -- Jim Hendee, who has no connection with this
>>> list serve other than suggesting its creation.*
>>> Ed Blume
>>> Communications Director for RENEW Wisconsin
>>> <http://www.renewwisconsin.org/>(a renewable energy advocacy NGO)
>>> and
>>> Reef enthusiast, diver, and non-scientist
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Steve Mussman<sealab at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Realizing that there is a spirited consensus (based on remarks
>>>> posted in previous discussions) that we keep this list from becoming
>>>> politically charged, I would like to momentarily step between adversaries
>>>> involved in the discussion on the media and oil spill science.
>>>>
>>>> My fear is that without modification we may ultimately lose
>>>> the opportunity to candidly discuss issues that are in vital need
>>>> of being aired among members of this forum.
>>>>
>>>> Considering that there is an obvious call for scientists to communicate
>>>> more directly with the public on so many contemporary issues,
>>>> although fully unauthorized, I would like to make a suggestion.
>>>>
>>>> When participants are identifying themselves (by citing credentials)
>>>> it might help to avoid undue controversy (and the associated
>>>> animus this sometimes creates) if they would freely reveal any
>>>> affiliations that might reflect even the potential for a conflict of
>>>> interest.
>>>>
>>>> In this way, perhaps we can assure the continuation of these much needed
>>>> and valued discussions and, at the same time, be able to more accurately
>>>> assess and evaluate the opinions expressed without eliciting resentment.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve Mussman
>>>> Totally void of credentials worthy of mention.
>>>> Just an old diver and self-avowed ocean and marine life advocate.
>>>>
>>>>
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>> Steve LeGore, Ph.D.
>> LeGore Environmental Associates, Inc.
>> 2804 Gulf Drive N.
>> Holmes Beach, Florida 34217 USA
>> Tel: 941/778-4650
>> Fax: 941/778-4761
>> Cell: 941/447-8010
>> GMT + 4 hrs
>>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 08:55:44 +0100
> From: Richard Dunne<RichardPDunne at aol.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Chagos Marine Protected Area
> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
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>    Dear Listers and Pete
>
> This is an excellent example of a small but positive step to help the
> Chagossians. Pete and Coral Cay Conservation (CCC) are to be
> congratulated on their initiative. Two young (18 yr old) descendants of
> former inhabitants of Diego Garcia were awarded these CCC scholarships
> and have been given the opportunity to participate in, and learn about
> coral reef conservation at a CCC training expedition in Tobago. They
> even enjoyed a Club Class flight, courtesy of British Airways! They have
> since returned to their families back in the United Kingdom where it is
> hoped that they will transfer their newly found skills and enthusiasm to
> friends and family. Hopefully, more Chagossians will be given this
> opportunity.
>
> The leader of one of several Chagossian organisations, the Diego Garcian
> Society in Crawley, UK (which numbers about 2000 islanders and their
> descendants) , Allen Vincatassin has endorsed the CCC scholarship
> scheme: " This is a great opportunity for members of the Diego Garcian
> and the Chagos community at large, that marks the initial steps to our
> people becoming stewards of the protected area."
>
> This is a first step to training and educating a new generation,
> hopefully so that they can return to the Chagos knowledgeable about
> coral reefs and the need for conservation. Whilst Diego Garcia is likely
> to remain 'off limits' for many decades or until the US agree to any
> resettlement there, it is possible that these young Diego Garcians may
> have the opportunity of working in the outer islands of the Chagos
> archipelago on aspects connected with the MPA. It would be a wonderful
> opportunity for them to use their new found skills and to visit (perhaps
> for the first time) their islands where their parents and grandparents
> lived.
>
> As a next small step I would encourage Charles Sheppard (BIOT Scientific
> Adviser) to consider whether these and other young Chagossians can be
> included in his annual scientific expeditions to the Chagos.
>
> Again thanks to Pete and CCC.
>
> Richard P Dunne
>
> On 17/09/2010 21:09, Pete Raines wrote:
>>     Dear all,
>>
>> Those of you who care to know more may care to read about two Chagossian
>> Scholars: http://www.coralcay.org/content/view/953/281/
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> Pete Raines MBE
>>
>> *Founder&   CEO*  *Coral Cay Conservation*
>>
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