[Coral-List] $33B Hawaii Reef Economics Value

Eugene Shinn eshinn at marine.usf.edu
Fri Nov 18 11:24:16 EST 2011

Robert, Thank you for exposing the devious nature of the,  "Total 
Economic Value for Protecting and Restoring Hawaiian Coral Reef 
Ecosystems" survey that came up with an outrageous $33.5B per year 
value of Hawaiian coral reefs. You did a great job of showing the 
problems, flaws, and exaggerations. In my long career I have seldom 
seen a questionnaire type survey that was not self-serving. I like to 
call them, "when did you stop beating your wife" surveys that imply 
you have been beating your wife (or dog). Agencies that do these 
surveys decide what they want to do then ask questions about various 
options and ways to accomplish the thing they want. They never ask 
the basic question,  Is the thing or action they want necessary in 
the first place? They are usually all about expanding the agency and 
squeezing more funding (our money) out of Congress.
     I suppose they know how poorly educated the vast majority really 
is (especially in science) and realize they can pull the wool over 
their eyes. You clearly exposed this attitude in your posting. These 
days agencies often have covert help from tax exempt Non Government 
Foundations (NGOs) that are very good at getting press coverage, 
influencing congress, and squeezing tax exempt donations from those 
having expendable money or in need of the tax breaks they provide. 
Gene PS: I could not help noticing posting number 3 that starts with: 
"Seeking a Natural Resource Social Scientist to support the National 
Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Center for Coastal Monitoring
and Assessment (CCMA), Biogeography Branch. (note key words, "Social 

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