Billy Causey billy.causey at noaa.gov
Tue Jun 26 20:18:58 EDT 2012

I am sorry , but I think this entire idea is absurd!  This is as bad
as using reef balls to justify for making up for habitat loss because
of human destruction.  Let's focus on the problem!  Us!

Thank you Sarah for yet again, sticking your neck out!   Cheers, Billy

On Jun 26, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Robert Thigpen
<para-la-langosta at earthlink.net> wrote:

>   Eugene,
>   Como estas?
>   I tend to agree with Sarah, especially on the reinforcement of bad behavior
>   point. I would posit that it is never a good idea to teach humans that it is
>   ok  to throw stuff into the sea, whether it be a board, plastics, iron
>   filings or fish food in any form. As far as bird poop, have you ever seen
>   what  happens to it when it hits the water, it kind of falls apart and
>   disperses quickly, unlike a pseudo golf/fish food ball which I suppose would
>   sink intact and be an unsightly gooey mess on the bottom. Bird poo which I
>   think is a naturally occurring part of the system that I do not think it is
>   usually artificially introduced by people and that perhaps is the bigger
>   point. How can you compare these 2 things?
>   Also, what does fish hooks have to do with this topic? Why bring it up? FYI:
>   I  am  vehemently  against  throwing  anything into the sea other than
>   retrievable fishing gears, and even some of them I despise.
>   ...and isn't bringing up something that happened in Rio, a lot like bringing
>   up Bill and Monica while discussing drilling for oil in the Artic Wildlife
>   Refuge?
>   Your using the "drop in the bucket" metaphor brings something else to mind
>   for  me,  indeed  an idea that I do not subscribe to: "The solution to
>   pollution is dilution." Was that your take home message?
>   Perhaps with the distractive rabbit trails you ran down, your irrelevant
>   comparisons and poorly placed metaphors I missed your point, if I did would
>   you please clarify for me. Thanks!
>   Blue skies,
>   Robby
>   -----Original Message-----
>> From: Eugene Shinn
>> Sent: Jun 25, 2012 1:24 PM
>> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>> Subject: [Coral-List] ECOBIOBALL
>> Come on Sarah..this is all so silly. Of course run off of fertilizers
>> used on sea side golf courses is a source of nutrients. Now compare a
>> one inch diameter sphere of fish food with the poop one seagull drops
>> on the reef every day! The term "a drop in the bucket" comes to mind.
>> Be happy the ecobioball does not have a fish hook attached. Has
>> anyone looked closely at the reports of the recent Sustainability
>> conference that just ended in Rio? Those greens flown in from around
>> the world were really living the high life while the champagne
>> flowed. Talk about hypocrisy! Next it may be baseball. Certainly that
>> sport "will re-inforce a destructive behavior in people" Come on. Gene
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