[Coral-List] what agency should list corals

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Sun Apr 14 07:01:22 EDT 2013

I have not checked the scientific validity of the below link but I can see that even in the more "optimistic" curve we will be over 8 billions by 2035 (population is not dropping, yet) and still as many as 6.2 billions in 2100.

I do not mean to be negative but maybe in 2100 the population could be even less than the "optimistic" estimate of 6.2 billions considering what could happen if we do not act now to face the food, environmental, economic, poverty, inequity, overpopulation, and climate crises of the current and next few decades.
As many started to say, or we get quickly and voluntarily prepared for a smooth transition to a new model or it will be forced on us in a very unpleasant way.

 From: Eugene Shinn <eugeneshinn at mail.usf.edu>
To: "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov" <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 8:35 PM
Subject: [Coral-List] what agency should list corals
Looks like the subject of "what agency should list corals" will not go 
away. Probably the best answer is: no agency should list corals. Listing 
them surely will not change Co2 levels in the oceans in time to make a 
As for worries about population there is some good news in Science 2.0, 
5 April 2013 
It says global population is dropping and will continue until around 
2090. As for the waste water situation in the Florida Keys which was my 
research baby for more than 10 years, I remind people that everything 
that happened to Keys reefs (centered mainly around 1983) also happened 
to reefs synchronously around small isolated islands in the Bahamas and 
Caribbean at the same time (and don't forget that was when Diadema died 
throughout the Caribbean). It is a real stretch to blame sewage in those 
cases. Remember there are species of bamboos that die off synchronously 
worldwide about every 40 years ( some longer) and the cause is not 
climatic. Here is a quote from an
 article in Annals of Botany. 82: 
779-785, 1998. "Bamboos are woody perennials some species of which show 
the peculiar habit of dying after flowering just once, in long life 
cycles of 2 to 120 years (McClure, 1966). Should they be listed? 
Fortunately there there are historic records of their death (and 
resulting Panda demise) that stretch back hundreds of years. We don't 
have long historic observations for corals but do have geologic evidence 
of their demise in the past. Are not natural cycles interesting? Gene
McClure FA. 1966. The bamboos, a fresh perspective. Cambridge, 
Massachusetts: Harvard University Press. No

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