[Coral-List] Prioritizing impacts to coral reefs
Steve Mussman
sealab at earthlink.net
Thu Apr 24 21:45:36 EDT 2014
Dear Gene,
This is not supposed to be a political / ideological forum so let's keep it
on topic. I'm confused about that paper you cited regarding corals and
acidification from The Science and Public Policy Institute
([1]http://scienceandpublicpolicy..org/images/stories/papers/originals/coral
s_acidification.pdf). Was that written by Craig Idso? I could not find
reference to a specific author and it did not appear to be a peer-reviewed,
science-based paper. It had an impressive list of references, but it read
more like a op-ed piece made to look like it was science-based. For example
check the last reference listed. How does a paper entitled The coral reef
crisis: The critical importance of <350 ppm CO2 support the paper's main
thesis? Please help me to understand. As I see it this isn't a left vs.
right ideological battle. It is science vs. pseudoscience and that's the
way it should be framed. Steve
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Eugene Shinn wrote:
Richard asked why I had not addressed several posting. Well, one has to
wonder if these rants gets us anywhere? I am reminded of the following
lines I pirated from a recent blog. " The crisis we face is not one of
politics in just one sphere, that of government. Even more sinister
politics have long been afoot in the scientific sphere from whence this
whole knowing of the matter of anthropogenic carbon sprang. The world of
science is a most unpleasant guild-like, politically active, and
aggressive world. It has its warring sides and those sides have
territories they claim and fiercely defend." This rang a bell because I
have seen many hypotheses come and go. By the time one is gone few even
remember it.
Back to one of the postings which asked, Is the Pew foundation any
different than the Heritige foundation? Of course its like night and
day. One is left wing and the other on the right. Both have lots of
money. You believe what you want to believe. Its like comparing Mother
Jones magazine to the Wall Street Journal. Take your pick. I have come
to believe there really are two kinds of people and it is not simply
Male and Female. We are wired differently from birth and yes it helps to
follow the money. Education seldom changes the wiring.
Regardless of what one might feel about Craig Idso people should
evaluate the papers he cited in the Heritage website I posted and stop
the ad hominem/kill the messenger attacks. Those were peer reviewed
papers. IPCC papers are peer reviewed (mainly by each other). An IPCC
member writer would not send his coral reef paper to Idso for review and
visa versa. The lines have been drawn. Gene
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References
1. http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/originals/corals_acidification.pdf
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