[Coral-List] Why we are failing to repair coral reefs

David Tapley dtapley at salemstate.edu
Wed Oct 22 12:42:45 EDT 2014

At the risk of being accused of various rhetorical sins, I would simply
like to offer this WikiPedia entry on The Population Research Institute,
which is the owner and publisher of overpopulationisamyth.comŠ


I¹d also like to point out that the video in the ³ludicrous link² (below)
may be titled ³2-point-1-kidsŠ² but it eventually arrives at a very much
larger recommended family size, if you watch it to the end...

-David in Salem

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On 10/22/14, 3:31 AM, "Gabriela Mayorga Adame"
<cmayorga at coas.oregonstate.edu> wrote:

>Dr. Szmant, with my post I just wanted to point out that the issue is not
>just how many we are, but what we act. And I think how we act should be
>easier to change in the short term than how many we are. The fun part of
>ludicrous link is that the numbers add up... they actually recommend just
>like you 2.1 kids per family
>http://www.overpopulationisamyth.com/2-point-1-kids-a-stable-population .
>know very well of the degradation of all Earth ecosystems, but I don't see
>how hopeless expressions are helpful... there has to be resistance to the
>Now, Jim Harper, that is a very interesting proposal! I am still reading
>the CRSOS business plan, but I am wondering what a normal citizen of the
>world with various contacts living and working in the Caribbean could do
>Oc. Gabriela Mayorga Adame
>Ph.D. Candidate
>College of Ocean, Earth, and Atmospheric Sciences
>Oregon State University
>104 CEOAS Admin Bldg
>Corvallis, OR 97331-5503
>TEL: 541-737-9831
>On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Szmant, Alina <szmanta at uncw.edu> wrote:
>> Dear Gaby:
>> I suggest you do more reading on the subject matter.  The optimal way to
>> achieve reduction in human numbers is by everyone realizing the problem,
>> having 1-2 children at most (or none is even better), and yes, less
>> consumption, much-much less consumption:  more vegetarian diets, more
>> non-fossil fuels, etc.  I have no hope that this will happen. The word
>> sustainability is an oxymoron when used with human activities in concert
>> with a growing human population.  We are destroying Earth ecosystems
>>bit by
>> bit.... We've already cut down ca. 50 % of the forests on Earth for
>> agriculture, fuel and other human uses (yes, the rocks and the
>> will be here long after all human are gone) trying to make a living any
>> we can.  Environmental degradation is greatest in the poorest, most
>> over-populated and resource poor parts of the Earth which have been
>> exploited by humans the longest.  Developed countries contribute
>>greatly to
>> this degradation by exploiting these poor areas for natural resources.
>> There are lots of great books written about all this (the link you
>> in your post is ludicrous...it's up there with the climate deniers type
>> web blog), and these ideas are not new, but most people for some reason
>> choose to ignore them:  too hard to face the choices if you agree they
>> true.   Expressions of outrage such as your are not helpful.  I will be
>> gone by the time our social systems collapse in 20-30 years but I am
>> that people your age are going to be living in a "Soylent Green" long
>> before you are my age.
>> Alina Szmant
>> "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds
>> discuss people." Eleanor Roosevelt
>> "The time is always right to do what is right"  Martin Luther King
>> Dr. Alina M. Szmant
>> Professor of Marine Biology
>> AAUS Scientific Diving Lifetime Achievement Awardee
>> Center for Marine Science
>> University of North Carolina Wilmington
>> 5600 Marvin Moss Ln
>> Wilmington NC 28409 USA
>> tel:  910-962-2362  fax: 910-962-2410  cell: 910-200-3913
>> http://people.uncw.edu/szmanta
>> *******************************************************


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