[Coral-List] rare Nautiloid re-found near Papua New Guinea

Fri Aug 28 12:40:19 EDT 2015

   MIchael
   My  point  is  that  we  as  a  community  complain about this sort of
   thing...calling it "typical" (which sounds negative even if that is not the
   way you meant it). I've just come to believe that compared to the message it
   is not all that critical. Sure it would be nice for them to get it right and
   promote paleontology, but more important is to cultivate good relationships
   with media folks and get the message right.
   Maybe a good message here is that if you want to be sure you are called a
   certain type of expert, say it upfront, don't expect the journalist to know
   it.
   And if you want to promote paleontology as a career (a nice thought), talk
   to teachers, get involved in career days, and write blogs etc to get the
   word out. Unfortunately, I just don't think the mainstream media is the
   place to go. Although they do love dinosaur stories and those do get a lot
   of play..
   Ellen

     -----Original Message-----
     From: "Risk, Michael"
     Sent: Aug 28, 2015 11:28 AM
     To: Ellen Prager
     Cc: Douglas Fenner , coral list
     Subject: Re: [Coral-List] rare Nautiloid re-found near Papua New Guinea
     Ellen:

   I  am  not  sure what your point is. I am sure the work you do is very
   important, although perhaps not all 7,000-odd subscribers to this list are
   as aware as I.

   My point was that coral reefs may already have enough âpureâ biologists-what
   they  need  is  more  interdisciplinarians.  (Terrible word. How about
   âgeneralists?â) By labelling people like Peter âbiologistsâ we are sending
   the wrong message to young people looking for careers.

   Paleontologists are by training perhaps uniquely qualified to contribute
   cross-field insights into an ecosystem that badly needs help. (I count Gene
   as one, although that might horrify him.)

   Mike (âdegrees in 3 fieldsâ) Risk

   On Aug 28, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Ellen Prager <[1]pragere at earthlink.net> wrote:

   Michael
   As a marine scientist with a background in marine geology, biology, and
   physical oceanography, I am usually called a marine biologist. Just the way
   it is.
   I try to correct it, but unless it really matters with regard to the topic
   or context, these days I often let it slide (sorry if this offends anyone).
   When I make media appearances, write, or do public presentations, I am more
   focused on what the specific points or messages are that I want to get
   acrossâ¦seems more important than a title.
   Appearing on The Weather Underground on The Weather Channel tonightâ¦along
   with talking ocean, wetland loss, and Katrina..hope to get in a few words
   about coral reefs and mangroves as important for storm protection with Erika
   looming out thereâ¦.
   Ellen
   Dr. Ellen Prager
   Earth2Ocean, Inc
   @elprager
   On Aug 28, 2015, at 8:03 AM, "Risk, Michael" <[2]riskmj at mcmaster.ca> wrote:

     I  note the article refers to Peter several times as a "biologist."
     Typical.
     Peter has been, for his entire career, a paleontologist (PhD McMaster-I
     was on his committee.)
     Not comparing the two men, but: so was Darwin, for those interested in
     science.
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     [[4]coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml..[5]noaa..gov] on behalf of Douglas
     Fenner [[6]douglasfennertassi at gmail.com]
     Sent: August 26, 2015 11:10 PM
     To: coral list
     Subject: [Coral-List] rare Nautiloid re-found near Papua New Guinea
     Guy spots super-rare "living fossil" a second time- 30 years later
     [7]https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/guy-spots-super-rare-living-222459791..htm
     l
     (not just any "guy", but Peter Ward, Nautilus expert, and not just any
     Nautilus, but *Allonautilus scrobiculatus*)
     --
     Douglas Fenner
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     PO Box 7390
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     Historically unprecedented global glacier decline in the early 21st
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     The  article  has  links  to 10 other studies that came to the same
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References

   1. mailto:pragere at earthlink.net
   2. mailto:riskmj at mcmaster.ca
   3. mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
   4. mailto:coral-list-bounces at coral..aoml
   5. http://noaa.gov/
   6. mailto:douglasfennertassi at gmail.com
   7. https://www.yahoo.com/tech/s/guy-spots-super-rare-living-222459791.html
   8. http://www.fit.edu/isrs/
   9. http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/igsoc/jog/pre-prints/content-ings_jog_15j017
  10. mailto:riskmj at mcmaster.ca