[Coral-List] Climate Change

[Ulf Erlingsson]

I thought it was clear from my answer that even if true it's not very relevant. Those promoting this are fear-mongers, and we as scientists must keep our eye on the ball.

Ulf Erlingsson

On 2015-06 -22, at 21:34 , Douglas Fenner wrote:

> Ulf,
>    I find it interesting that you raised two questions:  "Is it true?, and, Is it relevant?"  and answered neither.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:33 AM, Ulf Erlingsson <ceo at lindorm.com> wrote:
> Ya'll are fighting over the Pope's beard.
> 
> The debate is over whether the climate is changing due to human impact, or not. This has two aspects: Is it true?, and, Is it relevant?
> 
> Svante Arrhenius welcomed the greenhouse effect as a possible savior of civilization from the Ice Age that was about to start back then, it seemed.
> 
> Climate has always changed through natural reasons, and it has changed rapidly at times. So has sea level. The predicted changes now are not any more "catastrophic" than what has happened in the past, and basically all it does is to move around the climate zones over the planet. And still we don't know why the next Ice Age will come, but we do know that huge agricultural areas will become useless. The carrying capacity of the planet will probably drop a lot, since the soils exposed through sea level drop cannot replace those lost in the Midwest and the black soils in Ukraine, when the climate gets too cold. Fortunately it's a slow process.
> 
> Those who are worried about biodiversity maybe should look more at the Nicaragua Canal, the largest earth work project in history with a 1.5 year EIA study that still carries a "SECRET" stamp.
> 
> Ulf Erlingsson
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> "belief in climate change is optional, participation is not."
> 
> Much-touted global warming pause never happened.
> 
> http://news.sciencemag.org/climate/2015/06/much-touted-global-warming-pause-never-happened
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> Has global warming taken a rest?  Not so fast, study suggests.  (check out the graph)
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> http://www.livescience.com/51094-no-global-warming-hiatus-found.html
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> Climate change deniers love to talk about a recent "pause" in global warming.  A new study says it didn't happen.
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> http://theweek.com/speedreads/558971/climate-change-deniers-love-talk-about-recent-pause-global-warming-new-study-says-didnt-happen
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