[Coral-List] using bubbles to remove CO2 from reef water

Steve Mussman sealab at earthlink.net
Mon May 2 15:31:55 EDT 2016

   (I'm  adding  Alex to this thread because he has had a long history of
   involvement  with  both the diving industry and the issues that we are
   discussing here).
   I've discussed similar issues on Coral List many times before and I believe
   that most members understand exactly where I am coming from. Generally
   speaking, it is my opinion that the diving industry as a whole has not done
   nearly  enough  to address the decline of coral reefs world wide. That
   includes manufacturers, certification agencies, dive shops and resorts.
   There  are lots of good people doing great things in our industry, but
   overall the environmental/ecological record of the "diving industry at
   large" is dismal at best. I wish it wasn't so and we all need to work hard
   in order to change this paradigm.

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Stephen Frink
     Sent: May 2, 2016 2:57 PM
     To: Steve Mussman
     Cc: Bill Allison , Ellen Prager , Laurie Wilson
     Subject: Re: [Coral-List] using bubbles to remove CO2 from reef water
     Steve - DEMA is different than the dive industry at large. Please be
     specific if you have concerns.  Many of the members of the list serve
     wouldnât understand the fine distinction you are making and might assume
     those in the business of services to recreational diving are universally
     ignorant of ecological issues or uncaring.  I donât think either is
     particularly true.

   Thanks for your consideration.

   Stephen Frink
   Publisher, Alert Diver Magazine

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   On May 2, 2016, at 2:51 PM, Steve Mussman <[7]sealab at earthlink.net> wrote:

   Hi Stephen,
   Of course the diving industry is diverse even in their beliefs relating to
   climate change, but I'm referring to industry leaders. We could argue all
   day about who comprises the "leadership of our industry", but I'm pointing
   the  finger  directly  at  DEMA.  Climate change, ocean acidification,
   over-fishing and land-based pollutants are basically off their radar as I
   see it. They act as if nothing is happening. We have an opportunity to
   empower divers to become advocates for moving policies and turning things
   around, but that's not going to happen as long as our industry's power
   structure remains in denial. I understand the fact that talk of declining
   reefs isn't good for business, but how are we to have hope that we can
   reverse the trend if our industry perpetuates the illusion (that all is
   well) by refusing to openly address these issues? As I see it, all of us in
   the industry have a moral responsibility to become activists for our oceans
   and coral reefs. We have taken from it and built our business upon it. This
   is a critical time and the diving industry should be out in front, not
   laying low hiding in the sea grass.
   Warm regards,

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Stephen Frink
     Sent: May 2, 2016 2:08 PM
     To: Steve Mussman
     Cc: Bill Allison , Ellen Prager
     Subject: Re: [Coral-List] using bubbles to remove CO2 from reef water
     Steve - What makes you think the dive industry disbelieves climate change
     and/or  CO2  issues?  Anyone I dive with, most of whom have several
     decadesâ  experience seeing changes in the reef ecosystems we dive,
     realizes we have issues.  Anecdotal perhaps, but so is a broad brush
     painting all.

   Stephen Frink
   Publisher, Alert Diver Magazine

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   On May 2, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Steve Mussman <[14]sealab at earthlink.net> wrote:

   This presents the diving industry with a rather perplexing dilemma.
   They could cite this study to promote the idea that coral reefs benefit from
   our bubbles, but then they would be forced to admit that a problem relating
   to rising CO2 levels actually exists.
   Sent from my iPhone
   Sent from my iPhone

     On May 2, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Bill Allison <[15]allison.billiam at gmail.com>
     So, the small issues of thermodynamic considerations and the ultimate fate
     of the CO2 aside, divers may help reefs?
     On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:57 AM, Douglas Fenner <
     [16]douglasfennertassi at gmail.com> wrote:

     Protecting coral reefs with bubbles
     Original article:
     Bubble stripping as a tool to reduce high dissolved CO2 in coastal marine
     ecosystems.  Environmental Science & Technology
     not open-access, note author's email address
     Douglas Fenner
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