[Coral-List] Coral mortality in a warmer and acidified ocean
riskmj at mcmaster.ca
Thu Feb 2 13:05:47 EST 2017
Hi Pedro (Doug, Gene).
These are perilous times, with science seemingly under threat from all sides
and societies increasingly polarized. This is especially true of the US.
It is increasingly important to all of us on this list that we stick to the
science. Gene's scientific credentials should need no repeating to anyone on
this list. He also performs a valuable although sometimes annoying service
by posting items that cause us to think, or cause our hair to catch on fire.
This recent exchange I think can be used as a microcosm to formulate our
proper responses. We must not fall into the trap of shooting the messenger.
It is true that Gene's posting came from a website that some of us would not
deem as credible. Nonetheless, however, the description of the science
itself was accurate. Gracious behaviour on our part would be to thank Gene
for bringing this to our attention.
Lost in the noise is the essential conclusion of this piece of science, and
I am disappointed that this seems not to have been absorbed. We as a group
need to accept that one of our major genera of reef building corals has
sailed through previous climate changes with its skeletal architecture
intact. We either have to accept that the recent declines are due to local
stresses, or we need to devise experiments to challenge the original
On Feb 1, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Pedro H. Rodríguez <phernanrod at yahoo.com>
Thanks for checking the references provided to the list to support a
counter-argument. An apparent need for attention has, once again, disguised
as someone's "pushing the boundary" of the science with a fact-based
argument. This is a huge disservice to the List- many people not have the
time to check every claim that poses as a scientifically-based argument. As
a defense mechanism, some of us pay special attention to claims made by
frequently debunked offenders.
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:20:08 -0500
From: Douglas Fenner <douglasfennertassi at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Coral mortality in a warmer and acidified
To: Nicole Crane <nicrane at cabrillo.edu>
Cc: Eugene Shinn <eugeneshinn at mail.usf.edu>,
"coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov" <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
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Well, all of the wording in Gene's message other than the article reference
was from the "CO2 Science" website, except where it quotes the article...
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