[Coral-List] pushing Paris while pulling no punches

rnharag rnharag at uol.com.br
Fri Jul 7 13:54:09 EDT 2017

Dear listers, David, Steve, Les, please excuse me to do my
contribution in this subject under discussion. We are all seeking salvation
of coral reefs but in our choices, we can not forget that corals
besides being of great importance for the marine life, are also the
indicators of the high risk of death that the sea and marine life are
facing, with serious future consequences for the economy and the
human life.

I venture to say that the main root of everything we face is
in the lack of consciousness and in the behavior of human beings, in this life
modernization, which did not prioritize sustainable practices and technological advances,
made available that did not respect the need for the balance of life
with Nature. Some cases, perhaps due to a lack of knowledge of the
consequences, but others driven by the greed of financial gain. Get
an increase in awareness and the adhesion of governments, companies and populations,
about future risks, will facilitate the increase, coverage and simultaneous solutions

Global warming and many other threats to our habitat are linked
to this root, of human evolution, which is accepted by many but denied by
some. The final solutions are complex, because evolution has generated many
ramifications that cause a wide variety of consequences, at the
such as coral reefs, threatened by local and global stressors.

As everything is interconnected on the planet and in life, isolated solutions will have
little effect, which is why simultaneous actions should be planned, to have the 
elimination of all the causes involved.
Possible to increase the simultaneity and scope of the causes involved, it would be 
necessary to raise the awareness of governments, companies and humanity,
which will be more effective if it is activated through organizations as 
the Paris agreement, which is realigning our technology and our life, 
in the pursuit of sustainability and conservation of our habitat.

However, as the situation is becoming critical in some
aspects and time is becoming scarce, there needs to be 
an additional effort for governments, entrepreneurs and the population to accelerate
several simultaneous actions, for a more Radical and Urgent change in the
recovery of the sustainability of life and in the increase of investments that
help to rebalance our habitat. Here is the observation that we do not have
another planet to live, beyond Earth.

We have contributed to the solution of the global threat caused by global heating to
coral reefs, especially in marine protected areas, where
local stressors are under control. In the absence of technologies that can neutralize 
global stressors, we use the energy made available by the Universe. More information 
can be obtained in our website www.coralsurvival.com.br that presents our work and 
results obtained.

We consider the cultivation of corals an important action for the recovery of
bleached corals and dead, but if there is no awareness of the
population and governments to eliminate local stressors, the work
may be unsuccessful.

As global warming and other accumulated planetary imbalances have already
begun to reach critical levels, and the speed are evolving faster than foreseen, 
it is urgent to reduce CO2 or we will exceed the 1.5 ° C limit of the Paris 
agreement. The propositions placed by the participants of the agreement, 
for now they are reaching the about 3º C, which will cause irreversible 
damage to life on the Planet.

I see as a solution for corals, the creation of great refuges for
to protect corals and marine life that can repopulate the regions
devastated. This deployment is only possible if there is an effective action
of governments and populations, interested and aware in creating and maintaining
refugees and in the absence of other technological means, accept a
partnership for the use of energy in the Universe. 

Sorry for any translation errors.

Ricardo Haraguchi
ricardo at coralsurvival.com.br
rnharag at uol.com.br

Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2017 08:51:27 +0300
From: David Obura <dobura at cordioea.net>
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] pushing Paris while pulling no punches
To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
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Les - I agree with you! Not really a surprise ...
We need, as you say " two messages: killing climate change and cultivating 
corals ?
This is the message we put into the latest report out on World Heritage reef 
sites led by Scott Heron and Mark Eakin, and that I credit to Ove for its 
application in the context of the IPCC and the Paris Climate COP and high 
level messaging. In the report we framed it as:
"Reduced atmospheric CO2 pathways give corals time to adapt and provide two 
key opportunities, through: 1. improving opportunities for adaptation by 
corals ? ; and
2. expanding opportunities for the research and development of new 
#1 and #2 won?t happen without dealing with CO2, but #2 won?t happen if we 
don?t do everything we can to find them.
At the same time - we must be honest about the limitations of solutions we 
may be passionate about today.
best, David

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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 11:02:44 -0400
From: Steve Mussman <sealab at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] pushing Paris while pulling no punches
To: "Kaufman, Leslie S" <lesk at bu.edu>, coral list
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Les, so here's my concern. As I see it, there needs to be an unequivocal 
connection made between the two messages rather than a disconnect. After 
all, you pointed out that it is important to both kill climate change and 
cultivate corals. What I see and hear in the public domain is often a hot 
story that might lead one to believe that we can save coral reefs by manual 
restoration or some other local action (alone). These efforts are rarely 
characterized as an important part of a broader agenda. It seems to me that 
many would prefer to avoid any mention of climate change in an effort to 
solidify support.. I get that, but in doing so they may (unknowingly) be 
providing cover to those who would like to take climate change off the 
table. What's wrong with a clear and consistent message that emphasizes that 
restoration efforts (and all the other actions addressing local impacts from 
overfishing to sunscreen) are important, but that if we really want to save 
coral reefs we must link these efforts with clear and decisive action 
against climate change?

Steve Mussman

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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 08:15:07 -1000
From: Bruce Carlson <exallias2 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] pushing Paris while pulling no punches
To: "Kaufman, Leslie S" <lesk at bu.edu>
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I?d go another step further:  public aquariums around the world are holding 
a huge number of corals representing a significant diversity of genera and 
species.  Further, for many of these species, they are actively cultivating 
and sharing them with other public aquariums (but generally not with 
hobbyists).  But the pedigree of these corals is largely unknown.  It is 
nearly impossible to trace any of these corals back to where they 

However, given the success that public aquariums (and hobbyists too!) have 
had culturing corals over periods of years (even decades in some cases), and 
given the peril that many of these same coral species face in the wild, it 
would therefore behoove public aquariums to establish the equivalent of 
?Arks? for corals.  They are already growing the corals, but what they all 
need to do is begin managing the corals in a more systematic way, tracking 
the origins of every coral and managing them for perpetuity.  Who knows, 
someday the only robust coral reefs that we will see will be those aquarium 

Re-planting these corals on reefs is, of course, fraught with problems, 
e.g., transferring pests and diseases, mixing zooxanthellae, etc., but there 
are ways to manage all of these concerns with proper culture and management 

If corals really are in peril in the wild over the coming decades, then 
there should be a concerted and coordinated effort among public aquariums to 
manage their coral collections for whatever future lies ahead.
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 22:34:50 +0000
From: "Kaufman, Leslie S" < lesk at bu.edu [lesk at bu.edu] >
Subject: [Coral-List] pushing Paris while pulling no punches
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John, pushing Paris is a wonderful idea, especially now, and especially with 
some good voices from out of the US loud enough to drown the din of our 
Twitter In Chief. Throwing rotten fruit at the Trump show may be 
therapeutic, but better still is to just change the channel.

I would also suggest that we do the one-two: push Paris, but also put out a 
welcome mat for reefs to return to. I think most of us realize that the 
debate over why coral reefs are deteriorating is sterile- you know, whether 
it is climate change or local impacts (overfishing, overdevelopment, 
overpopulation, lousy watershed stewardship). Without battling climate 
change we are screwed, but even doing so, if we do not also recreate the 
enabling conditions for coral reef growth, then we are shanked. We should 
also exercise caution in berating manual restoration as futile, for it is 
going to prove a welcome adjunct in this recently recruitment-limited 
ocean.. We?ve brought the ocean to a new low and it may take a little 
encouragement to love it back to life. Think of the ?lost Franklinia,? the 
gorgeous North American camellia, Franklinia alatamaha. Minus the admiration 
of the Bartrams and subsequent generations of ambitious gardeners, this 
magnificent small tree from a tiny
last redoubt in Georgia, would surely be extinct. Or think of the American 
chestnut, for which hope that it might one day return as a bulwark of 
eastern US deciduous forests is literally growing, today, in experimental 
gardens. Now, in the same mental frame, think Atlantic acroporid corals.

It might be advisable to separate the two messages: killing climate change 
and cultivating corals, to keep each point simple, forceful, and in its 
proper context. Dealing with climate change is essential on so many levels, 
and for so many reasons, that it stands alone. Meanwhile, however, in our 
basic science and clinical practices alike, we should be reinforcing the 
importance of responsible stewardship for anything good to happen and stay 
happening in our children?s and grandchildren?s lives.


Les Kaufman

> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 12:29:08 -0400
> From: John Ogden <jogden at usf.edu<mailto:jogden at usf.edu>>
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] What's really killing the corals.
> To: Peter Sale <sale at uwindsor.ca<mailto:sale at uwindsor.ca>>, 
> "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov<mailto:coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>"
> <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov<mailto:coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>>, 
> Magnus L Johnson
> <M.Johnson at hull.ac.uk<mailto:M.Johnson at hull.ac.uk>>
> Message-ID: 
> <3b9865f5-3413-2189-6153-9a99dd91700e at usf.edu<mailto:3b9865f5-3413-2189-6153-9a99dd91700e at usf.edu>>
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> Hi Peter and all,  OK, I think we pretty much agree and probably have
> for decades.  But if policies are going to change, we need a focal point
> on something that has a good chance of being achieved.  Right now ICRI
> is working on the materials for the announcement of the third
> International Year of the Reef (IYOR) in 2018.  Presently, the goals
> look disturbingly like those of the first IYOR in 1997.  Is there a
> policy focus suitable for  IYOR 2018 that can be achieved?   For
> example, is it conceivable that the global coral reef community could
> rise up with one voice to push the Paris COP climate agenda?

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