[Coral-List] cost/value of 'reef restoration'Re: Symposium on Effective Conservation @ICCB2017

Steve Mussman sealab at earthlink.net
Fri Jul 28 11:02:05 EDT 2017

Dear Sarah,

Good point and well-said. I just want to emphasize that my criticism of the storm insurance for some of Mexico's coral reefs (on a concurrent thread) is not a rant against restoration. I totally agree that "We need conservation, restoration, and drastic reductions in greenhouse gases to work together. Otherwise, there's no future for coral reefs". Thanks for making that clear!


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> On Jul 26, 2017, at 10:41 AM, Sarah Frias-Torres <sfrias_torres at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Dear LIsa, Nohora and Coral-List,
> We need to chill out a bit on this constant debate of conservation vs restoration.
> As I said during one of the coral reef restoration sessions I co-chaired at the 2016 ICRS, and have said repeated times:
> We need conservation, restoration, and drastic reductions in greenhouse gases to work together.
> Otherwise, there's no future for coral reefs.
> So I find debates on rejecting restoration in favor of conservation, or the other way around, quite unproductive.
> Sometimes, the conservation approach alone is all a coral reef needs. Sometimes it will be active restoration. Sometimes a mixture of both.
> Let's talk. Let's work together and learn from both scientific fields (conservation AND restoration), and let's speak up to stop further destruction of coral reefs.
> Sarah Frias-Torres, Ph.D.
> Twitter: @GrouperDoc
> Blog: http://grouperluna.wordpress.com
> http://independent.academia.edu/SarahFriasTorres
> ________________________________
> From: coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov <coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml..noaa.gov> on behalf of Nohora Galvis <icri.colombia at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2017 8:48 AM
> To: lisa carne
> Cc: "Coral-List
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] cost/value of 'reef restoration'Re: Symposium on Effective Conservation @ICCB2017
> Dear Lisa,
> Thanks for your information about your benchmark of "restoration
> success": an increase in coral cover by > 35%. About
> cost-effectiveness "Prevention is better than to Cure"
> If the world coral reef scientific community overcome the bystander
> effect to speak up, supporting the statement any unsustainable plan
> that involves destruction of resilient coral reefs would not be even
> considered. Developers would find other alternatives to avoid
> destruction of coral reefs with the empowered sceintific community!!!
> The Varadero case study was reported by fishermen in 1989
> (Galvis,1989). Valeria was hired for the project of dredging the
> current Bocachica Channel, she reported thinking that it was a
> political decision and that could not do any further action to save
> the coral reef. The confidential "restoration project": breaking
> pieces of massive coral colonies (400 years-old) 90% healthy coral
> cover and put them in another place to justified the project. I
> invited her  with other scientists to give the second talk of the
> symposium since they now want to avoid the destruction of the
> remaining coral reef and want to share the benchmarks for a healthy
> Caribbean coral reef. Today you can learn more about the
> socio-economics and the decision making during our first talk.
> There are many ways to estimate Restoration Costs for Varadero:
> *Costs of hiring scientists Depends if those projects include to favor
> unsustainable dvelopment: Real Cost Varadero $1500000USD just to
> present state that is feasible to break coral colonies and move them
> some place else out of the way. Those costs are low for developers.
> *Real Costs of the "Restoration Project" should consider the climate
> change scenario or the fact that the coral reef is a climate change
> refuge. This scientific fact may stop any project immediately.
> *Other real social costs for fishermen compensation may start from
> $81millions USD/Km2
> stopping the local threats to allow all the different coral colonies
> to growth forming a biodiverse complex ecosystem structure to
> replenish the ecological function and provide again the economic
> services (e.g.fisheries) (Galvis and Galvis, 2016)
> *Costs of replacing the economic values including the variable TIME
> (years slow growing massive coral colonies to adapt) may start from
> $244millionsUSD (Galvis and Galvis, 2017).
> The Cost of dredging the alternative channel $60millionsUSD.
> Therefore, the REAL estimates of ecological, social and economic
> impact costs are higher than the project
> presented and considered by decision makers that favor the destruction
> of the most resilient coral reef in Colombia.
> That is why for Varadero conservation  should be the ethical option,
> while restoration promesses are unreal in the current climate change
> scenario. Breaking few of the 10000 coral colonies
> #CoralBahíaCartagena only will build a small artificial reef ....if
> they survive outside the climate change refuge
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> 2017-07-24 19:25 GMT-05:00, lisa carne <lisasinbelize at gmail.com>:
>> Dear Nohora, Elisa and Coral-list folks:
>> Thank you writing into this format, as I was unaware of the recent
>> publications in Ecological Applications-even though I just did a search for
>> economic values/costs of reef restoration.
>> I write from Belize, where we have been doing acropora 'replenishment' for
>> over a decade. I am constantly asked the cost for restoring reefs per m2 by
>> 'real' funders and private donors: my standard reply is that fuel is our
>> highest cost, and most variable. Not only do we pay between US$5-7/gallon,
>> but sites are 7-12-20->35 nautical miles away; logistics and practicality
>> are one of our many nursery and outplant site selection criteria.
>> For those that did not reed the thread (perhaps due to subject line which I
>> have edited), Elisa first wrote RE: a publication "The cost and feasibility
>> of marine coastal restoration" (Bayraktarov et al 2016), to which Buki
>> Rinkevich submitted a response on just coral reefs (thank you Buki for
>> kindly sending me said letter), and the authors have now responded to that
>> letter (link in Elisa's original post).
>> I absolutely agree we need to share real costs and values and am working on
>> pulling out $ values that our work has directly contributed to the local
>> community just since 2013. Costs alone are not even easy as we may have
>> multiple sites, and many grants have outreach etc tied into their
>> budgets/deliverables, and most build on past work as well. Let me point out
>> some frustrations and key points these e-mails have raised for me:
>> 1) confusion between conservation and restoration and specifically
>> artificial reefs. Nohora refers to Varadero reef in Colombia which was only
>> recently 'discovered' (and thanks to colleague Valeria Pizarro who informed
>> me immediately). This reef exists where 'it should not" because of poor
>> water quality conditions, etc yet has extremely high coral cover and
>> diversity. Now it seems to be threatened by development before it can be
>> properly studied-and these reefs do need to be studied to understand why
>> they still thrive when so many others do not. I do agree with Nohora: an
>> ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure. That said  we are
>> collectively failing so far with prevention.
>> Restoration is NOT the same as artificial reefs, in Belize we now have in
>> place a Restoration Policy to distinguish these. Also it IS true many
>> developers and governments have (mis) used 'restoration' and/or relocations
>> as in: we need a port/beach let's move all these corals that are in the way.
>> 2) Also some history: some have publlished on the folly of restoration while
>> collecting $ from govt and/or developers  to do what I just described.
>> Notice I put 'restoration' and 'replenishment' in quotes, because we cannot
>> even seem to agree on terminology/definitions.
>> 3) colleagues still argue over the need/viability of whatever definition of
>> restoration you want to use. I have heard it all: it won't work, they will
>> adapt on their own, you can never scale up, you cannot restore a reef with
>> just a few species (Caribbean acroporids-but then when I aim to show
>> associated biodiversity-'oh you don't need that everyone knows that").
>> Moving further along: you must show genetic diversity (done), you must show
>> sexual reproduction (when gamete formation was shown "oh but they might be
>> re-absorbed"), when we documented spawning from nursery grown corals (all
>> three acroporid taxa) oh that doesn't mean recruits are surviving, you must
>> show that. You should use this method, or that method or get divers to pay
>> to fund the work, etc etc
>> 4) so we (community based not-for-profit) struggle to meet 'scientific'
>> requirements (you need to publish more) and financial/organizational
>> needs/capacity building and then are also chastised for not showing costs....
>> working on it!
>> As some of you may have seen, there is now a regional effort at addressing
>> some of these issues (CRC) but we still do not have: standardized ways of
>> quantifying outplants/success, standardized ways of calculating growth
>> rates, a real guide for where and when "restoration'/'replenishment' efforts
>> should (and if they should) occur and furthermore, a consensus on coastal
>> community involvement and a link to alternative livelihoods/poverty
>> reduction versus academic, govt, and large NGO's staff salaries.
>> To any that read this whole thing I apologize for ranting and: please look
>> us up, and better yet, come visit our work in Belize! we have already shown
>> an increase in coral cover by > 35% (photo mosaics, thanks to Art Gleason
>> and others) and yes, a level of thermal tolerance/adaptation which I could
>> use help 'proving' /quantifying, with years of temperature and bleaching
>> history/data (and host/symbiont genetic data)
>> And by all means if any of you out there want to help us with any of these
>> needs (socio-economic studies, associated biodiversity, thermal tolerance
>> data) please drop me a line, but kindly bring your own funding.
>> Still at it in Belize,
>> Lisa Carne
>> Founder/Executive Director
>> Fragments of Hope, Ltd.
>> Placencia Peninsula
>> Stann Creek District
>> Belize, C.A.
>> tel: (501) 623-6122
>> fragmentsofhope.org
>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 7:09 AM, Nohora Galvis <icri.colombia at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear Elisa,
>> By international and national laws coral reefs should be protected
>> from local and global threats. Justification of unsustainable
>> development projects with high mortality "restoration projects" in the
>> current scenario of climate change would not help to "save the natural
>> coral reefs". You also concluded that.
>> The scientific community should be encouraged and empowered to present
>> their knowldege to preserve the coral reefs that are refuges of
>> climate change and that are resilient to local threats. Being optimist
>> means being proactive to promote effective conservation that should be
>> included in the local and regional plants of development. If that
>> happens unsustainable developers with still hire scientists to advice
>> them to find antohter alternatives and to guide them not to destroy
>> coral reefs.
>> The symposium is based on case studies.  One of those, the Varadero
>> Resilient reef that is about to be destroyed by a dredging plan and
>> the destruction is about to be justified with a "restoration project"
>> that will consist in breaking very few coral colonies from the 10000
>> located at South of Cartagena Bay to place them in Horno, where
>> already the mortality is high and none threats are controlled since as
>> it is an unprotected area. We visited yesterday the area and verified
>> the reports of our volunteer reporters within our citizen science
>> program involving scuba diving operators.
>> Join the petition
>> https://www.change.org/p/anla-minambienteco-luisernestogl-causasciudadanas-salvemosvaradero-no-a-un-canal-sobre-un-arrecife-%C3%BAnico-en-el-mundo?source_location=minibar
>> 2017-07-20 23:08 GMT-05:00, elisa.bayraktarov <elisa.bayraktarov at gmx.de>:
>>> Dear Nohora and Coral List,
>>> While seeing myself as an advocate for an ecologically, socially and
>>> economically meaningful conservation of global coral reefs, I think we
>>> should acknowledge that smart and effective coral conservation will
>>> always
>>> include elements from both protection and restoration.
>>> There are scenarios under which restoration may be more cost effective
>>> and
>>> provide more benefits than protection over time (see Possingham et al.
>>> 2015).
>>> Which approach to use will always depend on the specific situation,
>>> whether
>>> the natural recovery of coral reefs can be supported through management
>>> and
>>> the available budget that we have to actively intervene. I am curious to
>>> know what the other coral listers think.
>>> At the ICCB2017 in Cartagena, I will present a 'Synthesis on coral reef
>>> restoration efforts' in the symposium on Policy and Practice on Tuesday
>>> 25th
>>> 11:30 - 13:00 in Arsenal.
>>> Further readings can be found here:
>>> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Elisa_Bayraktarov/publication/317631929_Response_to_%27Rebutting_the_inclined_analyses_on_the_cost-effectiveness_and_feasibility_of_coral_reef_restoration%27/links/5949d4e44585158b8fd5c015/Response-to-Rebutting-the-inclined-analyses-on-the-cost-effectiveness-and-feasibility-of-coral-reef-restoration.pdf
>>> http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1890/15-1077/full
>>> Looking forward to catching up at ICCB!
>>> CheersElisa
>>> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>>> -------- Original message --------From: Nohora Galvis
>>> <icri.colombia at gmail.com> Date: 20/7/17  01:35  (GMT+10:00) To:
>>> Coral-List
>>> <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> Subject: [Coral-List] Symposium on
>>> Effective Conservation @ICCB2017
>>> Dear 9,400 members of the Coral-List,
>>> The ICCB2017 is starting soon in Cartagena, we will moderate the
>>> knowledge café on "Voices of Conservation" Monday at 14:30.
>>> We will also have a Panel to discuss threats to coral reef
>>> preservation as a natural ecosystem as organizers of the Symposium on
>>> Effective Conservation.
>>> We will not refer to restauration as building one coral species as
>>> that is a theme for other kind of meetings on artificial reefs because
>>> for us Active Conservation involves the unanimous recommendations in
>>> the abstracts to protect effectivley the coral reef refuges such
>>> #VaraderoColombia and stop / diminish the local and global threats as
>>> the way to effectively save more coral reefs with a natural ecosytem
>>> function with multi-species complex structure keeping the
>>> #OceanOptimism #ConservationOptimism #GlobalBehaviorChange
>>> #GlobalBehaviOURchange
>>> Specifically we invite you to attend the first talk of the Symposium
>>> 157 on Tuesday 25th of July to be aware of the Psychosocial Phenomena
>>> some coral reef scientist are facing, such as the bystander effect and
>>> diffusion of responsibility when they are less likely to offer help in
>>> conservation campaigns leaving other leaders to take action. The
>>> priorities of some coral reef scientists are measured with units of
>>> USD $$ as they receive funding to justify unsustainable development
>>> allowing coral reef destruction while they offer "SAVING THE REEF" by
>>> breaking some coral colonies to paste them some place else without
>>> futher monitoring to follow the survivorship, morbility and high
>>> mortality of ALL taxonomic groups at the natural coral reef ecosystem.
>>> The coral reef divers who want to join us at diving at
>>> #CoralesBahíaCartagena #ClimateChangeRefuge please contact me as I am
>>> staying at
>>> http://www.coralesdeindias.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3KKthdWV1QIVxySBCh2PJgTkEAAYASAAEgJeHfD_BwE
>>> --
>>> Cordial saludo,
>>> Nohora Galvis
>>> Directora Observatorio Pro Arrecifes
>>> Fundación ICRI Colombia
>>> Coordinadora Red Internacional de Observadores Voluntarios del Arrecife
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>>> Twitter @ArrecifesCoral e @ICRIcolombia
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>> --
>> Cordial saludo,
>> Nohora Galvis
>> Directora Observatorio Pro Arrecifes
>> Fundación ICRI Colombia
>> Coordinadora Red Internacional de Observadores Voluntarios del Arrecife
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> Fundación ICRI Colombia
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