[Coral-List] Saving reefs....without elephants [SEC=UNOFFICIAL]

Dennis Hubbard dennis.hubbard at oberlin.edu
Fri Apr 27 08:02:10 EDT 2018

Hi all:

Anyone interested in this topic as it relates to environmental "health"
should read Rev. WF Lloyd's (Professor of Political Economy) "Two Lectures
on the Checks to Population" given to. This is the concept of the "Commons"
referred to in Hardin's first "Tragedy of the Commons".

You can find it at:


On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:51 PM, Ashley Frisch <Ashley.Frisch at gbrmpa.gov.au>

> Dear Coral List,
> I liked reading J. Hill's constructive and concise post about threats to
> coral reefs and potential solutions to the problems, such as "use less
> energy, fly less, and eat less meat".  In my opinion, the single BIGGEST
> thing we can do to help the plight of coral reefs (and nature, climate and
> society in general) is to have fewer children, and encourage others to do
> the same.  As a whole, we struggle for 5% reductions in consumption per
> capita. Meanwhile, global population increases by 10% every decade, which
> ensures any wins are overwhelmed by losses. I often wonder how much better
> our coral reefs would be now if 20 years ago we abandoned science,
> conservation and management and spent all that money on contraception and
> empowering people (particularly women) to family plan.  Few people are
> willing to discuss over-population because the issue has links to religion,
> but the sooner the issue becomes mainstream, the sooner we can address the
> common denominator of global environment
>  al degradation.
> For an excellent discussion of the issue, see Camilo Mora's article in
> Ecology and Society (Revisiting the Environmental and Socioeconomic Effects
> of Population Growth: a Fundamental but Fading Issue in Modern Scientific,
> Public, and Political Circles) which is feely available online.
> https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=
> web&cd=6&ved=0ahUKEwiDqI-U1tbaAhWIS7wKHX1kA3AQFghaMAU&
> url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww..ecologyandsociety.org%2Fvol19%
> 2Fiss1%2Fart38%2FES-2013-6320.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3Dq9AHMjMny9cXhynrHuMw
> Thanks,
> Ashley
> Dr Ashley Frisch
> Research and Water Quality Coordinator
> Reef HQ / Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Authority
> ashley.frisch at gbrmpa.gov.au<mailto:ashley.frisch at gbrmpa.gov.au>
> Tel: +617 4750 0898
> PO Box 1379
> Townsville Qld 4810
> Australia
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Dennis Hubbard
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(440) 775-8346

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